Dec 30th 2014 11:32 am The Big Fib

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From 1994, Arlo & Janis gets serious. Well, not really. Or not. Really. Yesterday, I tuned in to the Liberty Bowl in Memphis, and it stirred an old memory from my boyhood. It was a bit surreal. I wasn’t sure memory was serving me well, so I looked it up online, and there it was confirmed. The 1964 Liberty Bowl, featuring the Utah Utes and the West Virginia Mountaineers (one of the teams in the 2014 version), was played in Atlantic City. Indoors. So what, you ask? I’m glad you did. This was before the era of domed stadiums. The Astrodome had not yet opened. This was the first indoor college football game ever. It was played in the Atlantic City Convention Hall, a cavernous building that had hosted, among other things, a national political convention, but it was not a sports stadium. Four-inch-thick sod was brought in to build the playing surface over a concrete floor, and the end zones were shortened from the regulation 10 yards to eight. And I remembered watching that on TV. I guess it would make an impression on a young sports fan. Utah won, 32-6. The next year, the bowl moved to Memphis, where it has remained. You could look it up.

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68 Responses to “The Big Fib”

  1. Steve from Royal Oak, Mi on 30 Dec 2014 at 11:52 am #


    I did not see it,but I did see a picture of it in a “Year in Review” book that we got with our encyclopedias. If I recall, the field was not quite a regulation field, but certainly bigger than the Arena Football league games.

    The Astrodome planned to use real grass, but the field never go enough light and the glare from the roof was so bad, that they had to paint it. That lead to Astroturf.

  2. Steve from Royal Oak, Mi on 30 Dec 2014 at 12:00 pm #

    Oops, it looks like I didn’t see your comment about the shortened end zones. I found it interesting that the TV rights were $95,000 and the attendance was just over 6,000. Not much less than a few games with small schools that were played this year! But the TV money allowed the organizers to recoup their investment, but the schools probably lost money. They did, however, get TV exposure.

  3. Jerry in Fl on 30 Dec 2014 at 12:02 pm #

    Well I swan. Who would have thunk that it would have started such a discussion?

  4. Jerry in Fl on 30 Dec 2014 at 12:16 pm #

    Thanks for telling us about TCM Remembers. I’m always shocked when I see who died during the year because I don’t remember some of them have died. This year gave a special tug on the heart because so many of my old favorites didn’t survive the year.

  5. James Riendeau on 30 Dec 2014 at 12:24 pm #

    You can’t put up a comic strip like that and not define the “big lie”. Is it that nuclear annihilation is imminent, so we must spend godless amounts of money protecting the world? Is it that the welfare queens are bankrupting the country? Is it you have a civic duty to spend more than you make to keep the economy from collapsing? Is it that drugs are bad, mmmmmkay?

  6. Ghost Rider 6 on 30 Dec 2014 at 12:35 pm #

    In case you ever wondered why New Orleans needed an enclosed stadium…

    Alabama met Ole Miss in the Sugar Bowl, played at Tulane Stadium, on January 1, 1964. New Orleans got six inches of snow the night before. Bama won, 12-7, with all of their points coming from field goals. By all accounts, it was a cold and miserable day, on the field and off.

  7. Ghost Rider 6 on 30 Dec 2014 at 12:50 pm #

    Actually, our Gubmint controls its citizens with laws, and by extension, taxes. Who are these people bemoaning the fact that the current Congress passed “only” 296 bills this session? Do you know how many Federal laws there are on the books already?* (At least enough to likely make each and every one of you reading this some kind of felon, whether you know it or not.) I suspect we might all be better off if Congress met in January of each year; dealt with pressing business for 90 days; and then went the hell home until the next January, subject to recall for emergencies.

    * No, you do not. According to several sources I checked, even the Federal Government does not know exactly how many laws it has on the books.

  8. Ghost Rider 6 on 30 Dec 2014 at 1:02 pm #

    Debbe ;) Glad it was Old Dell that crashed and not you, hon. Yes, my life is back to what I laughingly refer to as normal. Last week was the best one my Mom has had since she was hospitalized a couple of months ago. I am for the moment encouraged.

    Jean dear, as I believe I once mentioned. I’ve heard that in the South one woman can say most anything about another woman (who is not present) and get away with it, as long as she suffixes her remark with “…bless her heart.”

    sand, vis-à-vis the possible existence of any Giada sex tapes, I’ll simply say that there may be more than one way to sweat over a hot stove.

  9. NealinBawstun on 30 Dec 2014 at 1:09 pm #

    According to this morning’s Boston Globe, there are 38 bowl games this year. In 1971 there were 11. The question no one can answer is ‘why?’

  10. billinbossier on 30 Dec 2014 at 1:12 pm #

    Today’s strip. I completely understand how Arlo feels. Mine does the same thing.

  11. Mark in TTown on 30 Dec 2014 at 1:20 pm #

    NealinBawstun, I can answer it quite simply: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Not everybody is taken in by that lure, though. The University of Alabama Birmingham cancelled their football program after the end of the season this year. Reason given, cost outweighed the benefits and they can spend the money on other sports where they do better.

  12. sandcastler™ on 30 Dec 2014 at 1:20 pm #

    Sometimes “The Big Fib” is a cover for the big secret. This case in point;
    Seems the CIA knew there was UFO’s, it was named the U-2. They also used pigeon cams, sounds like something from “Get Smart.” The truth and Hollywood both create the unbelievable.

  13. Lynn from Memphis on 30 Dec 2014 at 1:27 pm #


  14. Jerry in Fl on 30 Dec 2014 at 1:53 pm #

    Remember the east-west blue gray north south bowl for left handed seniors?

  15. emeritus minnesota biologist on 30 Dec 2014 at 2:00 pm #

    I’ve not yet read anything posted after 0600 this morning, and will not be able to send msgs out from early morning tomorrow until whenever.

    OF webcam essentially covered w/ snow.

    TIP BlogSpot not bad.

    Peace, emb

  16. sandcastler™ on 30 Dec 2014 at 2:05 pm #

    Jerry, that bowl was played in Cincinnati on New Year’s Day. If I recall correctly, is was sponsored by WKRP. Only the first half was played, as the half time entry of the New Year Baby went tragically wrong.

  17. Steve from Richmond on 30 Dec 2014 at 4:33 pm #

    “You could look it up.” Do we now start referring to you as the old perfessor?

  18. TruckerRon on 30 Dec 2014 at 6:51 pm #

    No one has to tell me that drugs are or are not bad. As a chaplain, I work with dual-diagnosis patients at the state hospital.

  19. Ruth on 30 Dec 2014 at 6:56 pm #

    Jimmy, you were a man ahead of your time with today’s retro panel. I was sure you must have loaded the wrong cartoon and given us a soon to be published one. Then I saw the year was 1994. It is still as true today as it was when. A truly timeless strip.

  20. Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 30 Dec 2014 at 7:01 pm #


    Nice nod to J. Thurber, one of my favorite humorists.

    If you’re ever in Downtown Columbus, be sure to visit the Thurber House.

  21. Tom (formerly) from the Front Range on 30 Dec 2014 at 7:08 pm #

    In 1981 (or maybe 82) the ANPA (American Newspaper Publishers Association) held their trade show in that convention center. The company I worked for had the stage for its booth. It was a time when every exhibiting company had at least one computer in the booth and these were not PC’s but mini’s like PDP 11′s, Data Generals, IBM 360′s, etc. The show was in June, the building was hot because the ancient air conditioning could not keep 500 computers and 5000 people cool. Heat rises and heads for the stage. We bought every fan in every store in Atlantic City to keep our equipment from melting down. Between the noise of these fans, the equipment itself and the roar caused by the Quonset hut shaped ceiling echoing all this noise, demonstrating our goods became a nightmare. Other vendors had the same problems. The net result was that virtually every represented company said they would never attend another trade show in that venue. The ANPA (now the NNA) got the message.

  22. Mark in TTown on 30 Dec 2014 at 8:20 pm #

    In answer to James above, some truths: the misuse of drugs is bad, the misuse of guns is bad, the misuse of governmental authority is bad, the misuse of automobiles is bad. I could go on, but you get the idea. All of these things have their proper use and can help us when they are used that way. But we don’t abandon all of them because some people choose to misuse them. That would bring another old saying to mind: Throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

  23. Mindy from Indy on 30 Dec 2014 at 8:21 pm #

    Off on a kitty related tangent -

    I traverse the Internets via a Samsung tablet. Invariably, I am holding the tablet upside-down after a while, I have no idea why. Normally, it isn’t an issue, except when Blacklight enters the equation. She has latched on to a new “thing” while she is in my lap: both rear paws *must* rest on my hand/forearm. I tend to hold the tablet left-handed, leaving my right hand free for kitty scritches. Blacklight will contort herself in the course of scritches, and trap my hand and arm between the back of the couch and her back paws. Trying to toggle between screens via task manager, one-handed, with the buttons at the top, gets interesting. Playing Words With Friends gets even more interesting. I fidget too much, Blacklight extends her claws into my arm, letting me know I am disturbing her.

  24. Mark in TTown on 30 Dec 2014 at 8:27 pm #

    Ghost, this looks like a place you and Symply would enjoy visiting. I’m probably going to give it a try next spring myself. I had thought it was just a racetrack, but it combines that with a racing-themed museum and an outdoor art exhibit. Cool!

  25. Jerry in Fl on 30 Dec 2014 at 10:43 pm #

    Sometimes they leave us off of the Florida map anyway, so I will be more than glad to become part of Alabama. See you all at the Rose Bowl.

  26. Ghost Rider 6 on 30 Dec 2014 at 10:54 pm #

    Mark: No doubt.

    Lady Mindy: I tried to picture all the contortions you described, but apparently I am weak in feline geometry theory. So I just filed it all away under “Kitty Sutra”.

  27. John in Richmond Texas on 30 Dec 2014 at 11:36 pm #

    It’s not congress or laws, it’s unelected and untouchable bureaucrats shutting down kid’s lemonade stands or judges denying independent business people their religious freedom

  28. Debbe on 31 Dec 2014 at 4:37 am #

    Good morning Villagers….

    Happy New Year’s Eve…….and if you are going to be decadent, at least be responsible about it :) Like last night, I was in bed at 8:30.

    The Boxx stopped in while I was doing the books/checklist….decided to have a ‘meeting’…he turned the heat down to 45 degrees. After a half an hour, I told him…we need to cut this short, I am freezing……he asked if I had long johns on, and I said yes, but no fat. Just muscle, he laughed….now he’s made me manager of the hen house…but I can put all the hour I need to.

    The boys were pretty good yesterday, got quite a bit done. Today I will have the 18 year old and no ‘Skittles’, and another 15 year old. He’s a pretty good worker.

    Emb…..where are you going, and why can’t you post? Please do hurry back, your postings will be missed.

    18 degrees out there, with a real feel of 8…brrr. it’s zip, zip for me today. Took forever to get that packing room warm yesterday. That old concrete floor was cold.

    Mark, that was me who asked about your niece. The IU Campus is really beautiful….especially in the fall with all the trees. Lot of old buildings. I have no idea when IU was established, but it has withstood time.

    gotta go…takes time to do all the zipping.

    GR ;) glad your Mother enjoyed her time with you.

    Jackie, don’t know when you are leaving, but you be safe.

    Thanks Denise.


  29. Debbe on 31 Dec 2014 at 4:37 am #

    edit button….The Boss

  30. Outlander on 31 Dec 2014 at 5:21 am #

    Gruber doesn’t strike me a little lie.

  31. Indiana SAM on 31 Dec 2014 at 8:23 am #

    Debbe: Indiana University was established about 30 years before Puddue. In those days you could major in Latin or Greek.

    Steve Moore (aka Indiana SAM)

  32. Llee on 31 Dec 2014 at 8:58 am #

    Debbe, have you tried any of the HandWarmers? I’ve put the small ones designed for hands into shoes & kept warm- though it was a bit lumpy! But I had my nephew’s hand-me-down snow boots (outgrown at age 11!) so there was room. I think I’ve seen ads for ones designed to be shoe inserts now, though, and that should be better. Also, this is an idea:

    or maybe something like it. I worry about you being so cold. And surely the chickens do better when it is some warmer? Ours always slowed down/quit laying when it got cold.

    Ok ok you know what you’re doing. :) I just thin about you. About all of you, really. It’s a nice family that Jimmy’s allowed here. And we get comics on top of that! How blessed are WE? :) Happy new year folks!

  33. Llee on 31 Dec 2014 at 8:59 am #

    edit: “think”
    sheesh….. any other mistakes are free for the taking! :)

  34. emeritus minnesota biologist on 31 Dec 2014 at 9:16 am #


    “Emb…..where are you going, and why can’t you post? Please do hurry back, your postings will be missed.” Thank you. Maybe some are saying thank-you prayers for the 2+ day respite.

    If all goes well, off for 2 nights for a mini family reunion. Actually, not sure about posting. I know email stays in the outbox until I get home. Also, I haven’t gotten far enough on my next column for the paper, so will spend laptop time on that. It’s not all that far, 120 mi. or so. Time for several 30-min. lectures on a “The Great Courses” CD. I turn it off if traffic is heavy. Still have to pack, and stop for an Rx.

    Happy New Year,

  35. Symply Fargone on 31 Dec 2014 at 10:22 am #

    Have a Symply Fargone New Year everyone!

  36. Trapper Jean on 31 Dec 2014 at 10:31 am #

    eMb, have a safe and happy mini-reunion! I, too, will miss your posts.

    Debbe, there are always “electric socks”!

    Ghost Sweetie, yes, indeedy, we surely can say anything and get away with it, as long as we add that little three word phrase! ;-)

    Indy Mindy, I know the feeling. I sit in my desk chair at my computer and my cat Emmy jumps into my lap and contorts around with her back against me and her front feet braced against the writing table so she doesn’t slide off while one of her back legs drapes over my left hand so I can scratch her tummy. I can use the mouse with no trouble, but typing gets a bit awkward at times, and if I try to use my left hand Emmy glares at me.

  37. Trapper Jean on 31 Dec 2014 at 10:33 am #

    I do not know who said this, so I cannot properly credit the author:

    The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those are inherent within you. Rather, it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.

  38. Debbe on 31 Dec 2014 at 5:00 pm #

    Oh, you all have great ideas for keeping my feet warm…and I havd thought about those little “hand warmers”….but they do make them for feet. Andrew brought me a thick rubber mat….we’ll see. Now, if I could find an electric floor mat with heating….

    For some reason, this song came to me today:

  39. Debbe on 31 Dec 2014 at 5:18 pm #

    This is the last song I’ll play….for 2014

    Good night, a safe night and and Happy New Year….no matter what time zone you are in!

    Mark, I hope you enjoy these “oldies”………………

  40. Debbe on 31 Dec 2014 at 5:22 pm #

  41. Charlotte in NH on 31 Dec 2014 at 5:26 pm #

    Llee, I like your post a whole lot. I worry about Debbe too, being so cold — and what you said about this being a family, and so blessed, and getting comics too. I feel just the same way.
    Sure hope eMb has a good safe trip. And Jackie is probably on the road, or already in Louisiana. Hope all goes well and she doesn’t wear herself out.

  42. Ruth Anne in Winter Park on 31 Dec 2014 at 5:31 pm #

    Looks like we won’t be having our usual quiet New Year’s Eve at home. Yesterday we learned that a couple of our young friends would be getting married tonight and then celebrating at the local drinking hole. I figured we could make an appearance and still be home by midnight. Now I find out that Bob will be in the wedding party! Luckily, it’s still a fairly informal affair – maybe I’ll wear real shoes instead of sneakers.

    I know that I, and others, have shared Neil Gaiman’s new year wishes in the past. Here’s his journal entry for today – the wish from 2012 and the newest one seem especially appropriate for the Village this year:

    May 2015 bring peace and happiness to all!

  43. Galliglo from Ohio on 31 Dec 2014 at 6:29 pm #

    Happy New Year to the Village! I wish you prosperity, love and peace.

  44. Mindy from Indy on 31 Dec 2014 at 7:00 pm #

    Queen – These Are The Days Of Our Lives (Official…:

    Happy New Year!

  45. Outlander on 31 Dec 2014 at 7:02 pm #

    Trapper Jean:

    I don’t think anyone of either major political persuasion spoke those words in recent history.

  46. emeritus minnesota biologist on 31 Dec 2014 at 7:26 pm #

    If neither of the lesser of two major evils, maybe a libertarian? No comment on where they fall on the evils spectrum. None of the 3 or most others says one peep / what I consider the elephant[s] in the room.

    I arr. safely, thanks, and no wrong turns. Am at home of one son and wife. We expect the other son and wife tomorrow [no grandkids this time], and they’re bringing the food! Roads are good everywhere, and temps are rising a bit. Been one or two digits below 0 F recent nights, and close to 0 a few days ago. Wind chills are unspeakable.

    This site came up so readily that I think I can post, if not email.

    Peace, emb

  47. emeritus minnesota biologist on 31 Dec 2014 at 7:27 pm #

    Ta-dah! emb

  48. Mark in TTown on 31 Dec 2014 at 8:47 pm #

    Debbe, like this?

  49. Mark in TTown on 31 Dec 2014 at 9:01 pm #

    Debbe, thanks for those songs. I like both The Who and ELO. If you haven’t heard, Jeff Lynne is going to re-form ELO and tour again.

    Here’s another group you probably haven’t heard of. I hadn’t until my Pandora shuffled it into my mix.

  50. Mark in TTown on 31 Dec 2014 at 9:09 pm #

    Happy New Year to you all. Have a good time, but let’s be careful out there.

  51. Jackie Monies on 31 Dec 2014 at 9:24 pm #

    HI am sneezing my head off in Louisiana where I am allergic to everything and I forget. All is going well so far but we are lucky to have sold some property with which to pay for everything.
    It is not cheap to die.It will hopefully be a lovely and tasteful service. I have to get the funeral home to play music I like Friday night and for services.

    I really liked the funeral home staff and the florists, but that was my business for so long, you never forget, especially if you were professional, learned and taught what to do to be so. And I always cared, and these people do too. It is all going well.

    Wished you all happy new year with love but I think it disappeared.

    lLove, Jackie

  52. TruckerRon on 31 Dec 2014 at 10:01 pm #

    My mother-in-law passed away yesterday just 8 days shy of her 91st birthday. I’m sure it was a relief for her in many ways to pass on. She was quickly losing her memories during the last few weeks, which left her feeling lost and forgotten. I had the experience of going, at her request, to the kitchen to get her a snack and being questioned, when I returned, who I was and could I go get her a snack?

    During our last visit she recognized my wife but not me or our 16 year-old daughter.

    We tried to visit last Friday, but the nursing home was under a quarantine for influenza… which she didn’t have, but she did have congested heart failure again.

  53. Mark in TTown on 31 Dec 2014 at 11:02 pm #

    So a tight dress has uses other than the obvious:

  54. Charlotte in NH on 31 Dec 2014 at 11:12 pm #

    Dear Jackie, hearing from you is a happy feeling. You are a wonder, so good natured and cheerful in spite of the sneezing and having so much to do. Happy New Year, and I can imagine the satisfaction of arranging everything perfectly to honor Mike and your mother. And you will be greeting friends and relatives and sharing the love.

  55. Trapper Jean on 31 Dec 2014 at 11:17 pm #

    Trucker, condolences to you and your family on your loss.

  56. Trapper Jean on 31 Dec 2014 at 11:18 pm #

    Happy New Year to all my fellow Villagers! May 2015 be better than the previous year.

  57. Mindy from Indy on 01 Jan 2015 at 4:46 am #

    Popping in – today’s real-time strip is a hoot! Best luck to all, hopefully today goes well.

  58. Debbe on 01 Jan 2015 at 5:11 am #

    And a blessed New year to all……………..

    Jackie, you made me smile with “It is not cheap to die.” You will be in my thoughts today.

    Llee and Miss Charlotte…thank you for caring.

    Mark….will have to listen later…over slept….don’t really want to work today, but at time and a half……cockle doodle doo…………………………………………….

    ….and hold on tight to your dreams.

  59. Outlander on 01 Jan 2015 at 7:49 am #


    Once, I ran for office as a member of one of the major political persuasions.

    Not too long after that, I changed my registration to unaffiliated.

    I decided that neither party has any interest in following and protecting the Constitution, and they care even less about showing respect for the citizens’ natural rights.

  60. sandcastler™ on 01 Jan 2015 at 9:26 am #

    Happy New Year!

    Another little known cartooning secret revealed, the magic will never again be the same. ;-)

  61. Ghost Rider 6 on 01 Jan 2015 at 9:37 am #

    I thought for a second Arlo was going to show us his and Janis’s “other” New Year’s Day ritual. ;)

  62. Ghost Rider 6 on 01 Jan 2015 at 9:44 am #

    Ghostly Observation #12

    Periodically pouring a cup of household bleach into the toilet bowl and letting it disinfect for about thirty minutes–good idea. Forgetting to flush the bleach before peeing in the bowl–bad idea.

  63. sandcastler™ on 01 Jan 2015 at 9:45 am #

    GR6, the “sheet dance” is tradionally perform on New Year’s Eve.

  64. Ghost Rider 6 on 01 Jan 2015 at 9:45 am #

    Ghostly Observation #1 – It is better to have a Happy New Year than not. So, Happy New Year everyone.

  65. Ghost Rider 6 on 01 Jan 2015 at 10:02 am #

    Yeah, sand, but when he said “share”, I thought he was referring to video.

    Remember when Arlo found the old Polaroids in a book?

  66. nodakwayne on 01 Jan 2015 at 10:05 am #

    Time to move on to the next page

  67. David in Austin on 01 Jan 2015 at 11:29 am #

    Happy new year to all

  68. Craig T on 05 Jan 2015 at 12:05 am #

    Jimmy, did you see this article about Legion Field? You probably saw a lot of games there, since I believe Auburn played a lot of home games there until the expansion of Cliff Hare in 1970. I was checking to see when my Yellow Jackets played at Legion Field, and all of the away games against Auburn and Alabama were played there (through 1983 for Alabama). Also of note was that, of the Tech vs Auburn games from 1910 through 1969 54 were pplayed in Atlanta. The train track greasing must have happened before then. I think played Georgia in Columbus a lot.