Neil of Norman and Rockford on 10 Apr 2009 at 11:47 am #
As the owner/retailer of a long-established graphic-novels shop and a spokesman/historian of many forms of pictorial literature, I would like to publically say to Mr Johnson, a fine and respected creator/artist of visual entertainment that he has every right to satirically mock the so-called ‘tanning industry’ and their illusion of self-respectablility over such a minor product. They can never hope to achieve the regards we have worked so hard ourselves to attain as members of the highly dignified Comics Industry!
Ken from Framingham (Boston Globe reader) on 11 Apr 2009 at 6:29 am #
Wait a minute– are there tan lines?
Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 11 Apr 2009 at 8:08 am #
I share your disdain of the ubiquitous use of “industry.” Every time I hear “entertainment industry,” “travel industry,” or “restaurant industry,” I want to stand atop a soap box and scream, “Idiots! Check a dictionary!”
What’s next? “Education industry”? How about “service industry”?
Perhaps, more than anything else, it’s a sign that this country has little left in the way of real industry.
I am sure that George Orwell would cringe at the current usage of “industry,” but I know that he would be livid if he could hear “execute” being used to describe the brutal murders of hostages at the hands of kidnappers, terrorists, and other criminals.
“Execution” is a death deemed to be legal in a court of law, and that court must act only on laws passed by a representative assembly or by the people as a whole. Hostages are never executed, and to say that they are gives their murderers a patina of legitimacy that is as wrong as their actions.
industry: Any department or branch of art, occupation, or business; esp., one which employs much labor and capital and is a distinct branch of trade; as, the sugar industry.
Webster’s New International Dictionary of the English Language, Second Edition, unabridged — the most authoritative edition of the most authoritative dictionary ever published in the Western Hemisphere. (Third only to the O.E.D. and Johnson’s Dictionary world wide.)
So, yes, it could be the music industry (which includes both Apple Corps and Apple Computer), the film industry (which includes Paramount Pictures, Netflix and the last movie theater in your town), the education industry (which includes the authors and publishers of textbooks) and even the service industry (which includes Merry Maids and Terminix).
Do you think George Orwell realized that instead of a novel he was actually writing an instruction manual?
Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 12 Apr 2009 at 8:01 am #
I had never thought of that before. Both Animal Farm and 1984 can be seen in that light. When I wrote my previous post, I was thinking of his essays on the English language and how people were using it to twist and abuse meanings and people.
It seems that we’re both right; I didn’t bother to paste more. Perhaps more than anything else, the current usage of “industry” shows the elastic and changing nature of the language. Not too long ago, “industry” meant only the production of something that was tangible. Entertainment itself is not tangible, but the media (CDs, DVDs, film) upon which it is presented is. That is the distinction upon which I based my comment.
The first definition that you pasted mentions “much labor.” When you have the time, please read Kurt Vonnegut’s Player Piano. The novel is disturbingly prescient in regard to the future of laborers.
Do you have anything that you want to to post about “execute”? I am interested in seeing it, if you do.
1. Commercial production and sale of goods
1: diligence in an employment or pursuit ; especially : steady or habitual effort
2 a: systematic labor especially for some useful purpose or the creation of something of value b: a department or branch of a craft, art, business, or manufacture ; especially : one that employs a large personnel and capital especially in manufacturing c: a distinct group of productive or profit-making enterprises d: manufacturing activity as a whole
3: work devoted to the study of a particular subject or author
John in LACA late of PNS on 12 Apr 2009 at 8:51 am #
You like to refer to all these facts, real or imagined. I’d like to have the reference where:
“It seems that we’re both right; I didn’t bother to paste more. Perhaps more than anything else, the current usage of “industry” shows the elastic and changing nature of the language. Not too long ago, “industry” meant only the production of something that was tangible.”
You do have one don’t you? Some dictionary from long ago perhaps? Regardless, meanings change over time. NOTHING you can do about it either. Mox Nix.
Re: Sunday’s strip
We used to do the same thing when we were growing up. Out of @ 100 eggs 5 were raw. We had 1 egg that we called the “Grand Prize Egg” that if you found our father would give you something like $10. He would usually eat most of the found eggs, since he really liked hard boiled eggs (he also did the same w/Hershey bars @ Halloween, but that’s another story) Well one year we thought it would be funny if we made the GP Egg raw. Well it was & it wasn’t…
Needless to say we all learned to spin our eggs before cracking them.
I had told my daughter about that trick yesterday and then it showed in today’s strip. I hadn’t thought about that trick in years and then there it was. Are you clairvoyant or a mental projectionist to get us thinking about it before delivering the punchline?
I read “Player Piano” many many years ago. For a while I lived in Schenectady, NY. Vonnegut lived in Schenectady and worked for a while at General Electric there. There’s a lot of GE in the novel.
A similar picture of the role of factory workers is shown in Charlie Chaplin’s film “Modern Times.”
As for “execution”, you would think that the killing aspect of it derives from the meaning to carry out a plan or purpose to the very end, “executing” the sentence of a criminal. Perhaps it does, but Webster’s definition 2c, given as “obsolete”, is “To put to death illegally; to kill”.
OK, let’s see what Doctor Johnson said about these words in 1755.
To EXECUTE. v.a. [exequor, Latin.]
1. To perform; to practice.
2. To put in act; to do what is planned or determined.
3. To put to death according to form of justice; to punish capitally.
4. To put to death; to kill.
The treacherous Fastolfe wounds my pece,
Whom with my bare fists I would execute,
If I now had him. — Shakespeare’s Henry VI.
Well, congratulations, Rick in Shermantown! You are a better grammarian than Shakespeare!
Doctor Johnson does not recognize Industry in the sense of “entertainment industry”. All he has is:
Industry, n. s. [industrie, Fr., industria, Lat.] Diligence, assiduity.
OK, Player Piano and Modern Times are not exactly similar. In Modern Times factory workers are worked to death; in Player Piano they have nothing to do because automation has made them obsolete.
I think today’s world looks much more like Modern Times with everyone either unable to find work or heading for a nervous breakdown from overwork.
Jim in southwest Illannoy on 13 Apr 2009 at 10:09 am #
Connie, way back in the dark ages when I was in high school we took them as warnings. Now I look back on them as prophecy except he had the year a little off. Orwell coined the term doublespeak, but our politicians have perfected it. (I’m not pointing at one particular party here. Both parties are guilty of it.)