Oct 3rd 2017 09:15 am Olive Pits

(I was looking for an old cartoon we haven’t seen in a while when I ran up on this post, from four years ago this month. I figured I’d share the entire post with you and give you an update: the olive trees didn’t make it. The olive trees didn’t nearly make it.)

Tonight, we’re supposed to get the coolest weather of the season so far in my neck of the woods. It might frost, which would be about on schedule. Remember the olive trees? They’ll be facing their first winter outdoors. I think if they survive a couple of winters, they’ll have a chance. The problem with where I live in Zone 8 (Refer to the above link for a refresher in all that.) is that many tropical and sub-tropical plants—citrus plants for example—would thrive year-round 99 percent of the time, but sooner or later will come that two or three days in winter when the temperature hovers near zero. Then, it’s game-over for many plants that may have been perfectly happy for years. Olive trees could be another example. I’ll keep you posted.
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198 Responses to “Olive Pits”

  1. Ghost on 03 Oct 2017 at 10:10 am #

    And then there was the time at work when one of my all-female staff wanted to check email on my PC and googled “hotmail.com”…except she inadvertently typed “hotmale.com”. (At least that was her story, and she stuck to it.) Most of the results were, uh, rather large.

    As we say in the South, she wasn’t worth killin’ the rest of the day.

  2. Adrian on 03 Oct 2017 at 10:39 am #

    My gardening dilemma is just the opposite. Trying to grow a cool weather crop where it’s too hot. Rhubarb in Oklahoma. I’m having the same success as you had with your olive trees.

  3. The Man Formerly Known as sandcastler™ on 03 Oct 2017 at 12:54 pm #

    GR6, once they’ve seen the big city men, the country boys don’t measure up.

  4. Steve from Royal Oak, MI on 03 Oct 2017 at 1:00 pm #

    Jimmy, I think that I know what your problem was….You should have planted them in an Olive Garden.

  5. tonyg on 03 Oct 2017 at 1:04 pm #

    To be on the safe side, bury your olive tree.

  6. anonymous on 03 Oct 2017 at 1:57 pm #

    Reminds me of my old friend Oliver Closoff…

  7. Mark from TTown on 03 Oct 2017 at 3:07 pm #

    Jimmy: https://www.groworganic.com/organic-gardening/articles/growing-olives-in-zone-7

  8. Mark from TTown on 03 Oct 2017 at 4:07 pm #


    Interesting idea.

  9. Anonymous on 03 Oct 2017 at 5:45 pm #


  10. Anonymous on 03 Oct 2017 at 5:48 pm #

    Puerto Rico requested the administration temporarily lift the restrictions on the program, formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).

    So far, the administration has refused, even after granting similar waivers in Texas after Hurricane Harvey and in Florida after Hurricane Irma.

  11. Anonymous on 03 Oct 2017 at 5:53 pm #


  12. Anonymous on 03 Oct 2017 at 6:02 pm #

    Your olive trees?

  13. Anonymous on 03 Oct 2017 at 6:22 pm #

    Why didn’t they throw the paper towels back in his face? What happened to Americans?

  14. Anonymous on 03 Oct 2017 at 6:34 pm #

    Sorry, Jimmy. Just couldn’t stand the apathy any longer. Bye.

  15. TruckerRon on 03 Oct 2017 at 7:02 pm #

    It’s not apathy to reject a news source that inaccurately reports the news from Puerto Rico.

    Check other sources and you’ll find that supplies are arriving, that the critical mayor was standing on a dock in front of pallets of those supplies, and that the governor and other officials were very happy with the level of support arriving, both supplies and funds. (That mayor has aspirations for higher office and was happy to spin the tale that would get her in the news.)

    The real problem is distribution of those supplies. You can’t easily move massive amounts of anything on that island. First, your ships have to arrive at a port with adequate equipment to handle those supplies. Then you have to cope with washed-out roads and bridges. The people there know it. Even the NYT has figured that out!


    So, sorry, Jimmy, but peace in the Village requires a gentle answer to inaccurate rants with a quote from a credible source.

  16. Anonymous on 03 Oct 2017 at 7:16 pm #

    So throwing paper towels?

  17. Mark from TTown on 03 Oct 2017 at 7:24 pm #

    Anonymous, your article from the NY Post reads as if the crowd was enjoying what the President did. So, why would they throw it back in his face? That’s what folks like you do, at least figuratively.

    And you want a good reason not to? How about not going to jail? Those folks in Puerto Rico have enough troubles, and did long before this. If you think our government is bad, read up on what they have there.

  18. Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 03 Oct 2017 at 7:33 pm #

    Gee whiz, but Anonymous sure sounds a lot like a couple of regular posters in here, doesn’t he?

    Sure would hate to see Jimmy have to return to moderating every post before it can go through, but it might happen.

  19. Anonymous on 03 Oct 2017 at 7:36 pm #

    Like what folks like I do? You are a sad.

  20. Mark from TTown on 03 Oct 2017 at 8:27 pm #


    but granted the waiver as of Sept 30th.

  21. Morphy on 03 Oct 2017 at 8:52 pm #

    I typed out a comment, an effort to redirect toward humor. Recalling a WKRP in Cincinnati show with turkeys and a helicopter, and the payoff line:

    “As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.”

    Then because I had not posted in a while, I paused to refresh before submitting. Disappointed that the tone had changed already, and A Respected Villager was making an unidentified accusation. So, I deleted down to a summary, and now ask:

    Rick, who do you mean? ‘A couple…’ sounds a bit vague. Do you read this as a dialogue of more than one Anon? Or are you tossing out a generality?

    TruckerRon, I did enjoy your measured response. Stressful times for many of us.

    Anonymous posting by accident has happened to many of us. This example appears to be an active choice. Nor do I believe it is the same as our anonymous of long ago, who explained clearly her choice at the time. With somewhat less assurance, I do not think ‘xe’ reads like a more recent example either. Our friend Jerry sometimes shows frustrations like these postings. But I have never considered him shy to attach his name to his strong opinion. I’m just thinking in text again, I suppose. But I do like plain speech over vague insinuation.

    Mark, I also appreciate your posting. It seems to directly address one of Anon’s complaints. But I only read a few lines before two autoplay videos began. I need to review my settings, I suppose.

  22. Ruth Anne in Winter Park on 03 Oct 2017 at 9:03 pm #

    Add Autoplay to the list of Spawn of the Devil.

  23. Morphy on 03 Oct 2017 at 9:09 pm #

    Jimmy, I don’t have any experience with olives, but I thought of cherry orchards that would defend against late frost by turning on the irrigation. One of those surprising, sciency things where the freezing point of water is warm enough to protect and insulate the fruit from splitting in the colder air.

    I somehow doubt turning a young transplanted olive tree into a freestanding icicle stalagmite would’ve helped the situation any. But it makes an unusual thought. I also like the thought of many symbols expressed by olives, their leaves, and branches. Maybe that dream garden that exists only in my mind should have an olive tree in the corner opposite the lemon tree, for balance.

    Too right, Ruth Anne. I did not linger long enough to see if it was content from The Hill, or advertising by others. But I’ve got non-native content locked down pretty hard. I’d be surprised if they were ads.

  24. Mark from TTown on 03 Oct 2017 at 9:44 pm #

    Ruth Anne, you’ve got that right. If I offended anyone other than the poster, I apologize. I have gotten very touch about people interjecting politics into every blamed thing. And of people deliberately distorting the facts to fit their desired narrative.

    One part of my degree was broadcast journalism and Anonymous’ posting pushed my fact-finding buttons. So from now on, I will try to ignore the troll in the room who seems to be trying to disturb the peace. I can’t control anyone else’s actions, but I can deal with my own.
    Good night, good health, and peace to you all.

  25. Charlotte in NH on 03 Oct 2017 at 9:44 pm #

    Oh my gosh, he’s back.

  26. Ghost on 03 Oct 2017 at 9:54 pm #

    Here’s a germane question. What’s a drupe?

    And a germane observation. Trusting any single “news” source for *any* information has become an exceedingly risky thing to do.

  27. curmudgeonly ex-professor on 03 Oct 2017 at 10:01 pm #

    I like the idea of olive-flavored ice, perhaps as cubes; might give a drink a special aura, if that’s the word. Ripe olives would be subtle in some drinks, and green ones for others. The drinks could be alcoholic or vegetable-based, but I am not so sure fruit-based would be good.
    Interesting to contemplate.

  28. emb on 03 Oct 2017 at 10:22 pm #

    Green-olive flavored OJ? No thanks.

    A drupe [expect it's online, but have not looked] is a simple fruit with a stony endocarp housing a single seed. The endocarp is the inner layer of a [often edible] fleshy fruit, but the endocarp is a hard, probably cellulose + lignin coat around the seed. Good examples are some or all members of the Prunaceae: plum, cherry, peach, and also the individual spheres that make up raspberries and such. Those hard bits that stick in your teeth are stones. Botanists don’t like to call those things pits, because pit refers to other structures in flowering plants. Now I’ll go see if Wiki like my definition.


  29. Morphy on 03 Oct 2017 at 10:35 pm #

    Ghost, a stoney subject. The easy answer, peach and all the likewise put together fruits. But there are enough fringe items that I would defer to a better definition from Wikipedia. I think many nuts and berries are included that seem surprising until you learn more about how they grow.

    Mark, if my message came across as taking offense from you, then I again must apologize for not communicating more clearly. I do not believe you crafted The Hill’s webpage, sold them advertising, or had editorial control over the final package. And I think the article was an excellent response, from the little I gleaned. The title of the link admitted the request was refused initially, while the body went on to explain that as the situation developed further the policy was adapted. If I had read further, perhaps it would have compared timelines of decisions across the three hurricane incidences as well, I do not know.

    c ex-p, I like the way you think. A tipple would be lovely, about now. Apologies to anyone for the mention of alcohol, if that is also required.

    A refresh shows, emb responded with the drupe info. as well, with similar result. Cheers.

  30. Morphy on 03 Oct 2017 at 10:38 pm #

    Afterthought, Ghost, if you had a pun going on germane/germinate/seeds, I missed it. oops

  31. Mark from TTown on 03 Oct 2017 at 10:43 pm #

    Morphy, no, I didn’t think I had offended you. I was apologizing to anyone I might have accidentally offended in responding to A’s comments. Normally I’m a little more tactful, but I thought if it wanted something thrown back I would give it what it wanted.

    It, because Anonymous is just that, without gender.

  32. Morphy on 03 Oct 2017 at 11:01 pm #

    Mark, makes sense. Yours was followed by Charlotte’s, perhaps I conflated the intended directions by reading to quickly. Acknowledge the gender observation, I was typing along and stumbled at the [s]he ambiguity. Thought I would be sensitive to an assumed-by-me-preference on its behalf. Your distinction makes sense as well.

  33. JACKQULINE MONIES on 03 Oct 2017 at 11:05 pm #

    Well, the woman formerly known as anonymous has been lying in bed napping most of day while being waited on hand and foot (he took me for a manicure and pedicure today). My drains were hyperactive and producing too much surgical discharge so I got chastised by all and put on bedrest.

    My personal domestic anti-terrorist made me a delicious chopped salad for lunch and a small steak with fresh peppers, onions and mushrooms plus green salad for dinner. Then cleaned kitchen immediately. All while heavily and legally armed. I love this man.

    So do all my female friends along with my male ones but for differing reasons. He has a fan club.

    Adrian in Oklahoma, where do you garden? I can’t get rhubarb to grow in Eufaula either.

    Someone is going to clean out a garden bed of cucumbers and we are planting some radishes, lettuce, spinach and snow peas in it.

  34. Morphy on 04 Oct 2017 at 12:02 am #

    Jackie, seems to me that as far as drainage goes, well Shrek the ogre said, ‘better out than in’. Without knowing better, I’d say it shows you are well hydrated, and there is no blockage. Each is preferred to the opposite status. It is wonderful you receive such attentive care.

    That sounds like a grand garden, and I wouldn’t be bothered much by the missing rhubarb.

    “I didn’t get a harumph outa that guy!” Mel Brooks as the GOVernor, Blazing Saddles

    The strange connections my mind makes. Rhubarb is a term for the background crowd noise that an audience expects from a large group of people. A scene is not staged right, it feels wrong, if a large group is silent. Mel Brookes directed Blazing Saddles. And while I don’t know for sure, I like to think that line was a crossover ad lib by the director from in front of the camera. The talent involved went with it, and gave Mel a nice payoff line. Or the boring version is the scene was written that way. It was developed out of previous dialog in either case.

  35. Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 04 Oct 2017 at 4:38 am #

    Mark in TTown:

    You echo my thoughts about the troll. We didn’t need that crud in here in the previous administration, and we don’t need it now.

  36. Mark from TTown on 04 Oct 2017 at 6:35 am #

    Good morning.

    Jackie, it’s very wet out there this morning. Hope you and Ghost don’t have to come to Tulsa. I know how bad those roads when it’s raining.

  37. Mark from TTown on 04 Oct 2017 at 6:38 am #

    Never heard of National Taco Day before. Anyway, here’s a list of places with deals for the day: http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/10/national_taco_day_2017_deals_f.html#incart_river_home

  38. Mark from TTown on 04 Oct 2017 at 7:53 am #

    Obviously a common problem: https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22195730_10155996814814734_6257327176372379803_n.jpg?oh=5fd31a7a907f533069d0353530c22f8f&oe=5A428A81

  39. Mark from TTown on 04 Oct 2017 at 8:23 am #

    No hands? No problem:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZJSy96wcrw

  40. Jerry in Fl on 04 Oct 2017 at 8:38 am #

    It’s true that I don’t feel the need to be anonymous, but unfortunately many people are determined to work against their own interest. They will listen to nothing but faux news. I’ve given up on pointing out the obvious. Hopefully some people are thinking about what’s happening these days. Ok, grab your guns and fire away.

  41. Ruth Anne in Winter Park on 04 Oct 2017 at 8:58 am #

    Jerry: Some are what my nephew described as the “unpersuadables”. Sadly, he was talking about his mother.

  42. Ghost on 04 Oct 2017 at 9:22 am #

    I’m reasonably sure that all of us here in the Village are as “woke” as we care to be/desire to be, so, yes, let’s do give it a rest. Preferably, a permanent one.

  43. Ghost on 04 Oct 2017 at 10:07 am #

    It rained lightly most of the night in Eufaula, but according to the Red-Yellow-Green Picture Machine (aka Weather Radar) most of the precipitation in the area is north of us now. And fortunately, our only planned trip today is to carry Dickens to the pet groomer.

    The output of Jackie’s surgical drains did decrease markedly yesterday when she was was less active. That is a Good Thing, as I hope drainage will decrease to the point that the drains can be removed at her next post-op surgeon visit next Monday. Although I do not mind tending to them (I kiddingly remind her everyday that she is lucky to have the least squeamish person she has likely ever known looking after her), the longer the lines stay in, the greater the possibility of a related infection.

    The new part-time housekeeper has been a great help, both with helping Jackie and whipping the place back into shape. She has known and liked Jackie for some time, and she seems to like me OK, too. As Jackie says, I seem to be building a new fan club…or as I call it, a “harem”. ?

  44. Ghost on 04 Oct 2017 at 10:09 am #

    ? = :)

    Ain’t tablets great? :(

  45. Mark from TTown on 04 Oct 2017 at 1:19 pm #

    Ghost, it’s turning into a regular toad-strangler here in Tulsa. Good thing the 3 of you aren’t traveling far today. Hope it’s dry Friday. Got to go to the main VA hospital in Muskogee to get my new CPAP.

  46. Steve from Royal Oak, MI on 04 Oct 2017 at 1:47 pm #

    Mark: Two of the most helpful “buttons” in these time is the “mute” button and the “Scroll” button. Find something offensive, scroll right by it. Hear something offensive, mute it.

    We had a dignified and calm discussion on one of my Facebook friend’s wall. Someone with an impressive education said something rather vile and he asked “How could someone post something like that?” My suggestion was lack of self control and/or censoring. I have had many unpleasant thoughts about some people. Some were dear friends and others in the media. But my Mom & Dad always taught me to take a deep breath and if a response is necessary, take your time and try to evaluate all of the repercussions. Well no one has killed me in a fit of rage (yet) so I must be doing something right!

    That’s what I enjoy about this blog. If someone says something nasty or stupid. SCROLL! But we been good little kiddies for the most part. Love to all….

  47. Steve from Royal Oak, MI on 04 Oct 2017 at 1:56 pm #

    On another note, the State of Michigan seems to have found a possible cost saving idea to help improve our infrastructure. In the span of 1 week two different bridges have been hit by trucks, forcing the State to knock both down.


  48. Steve from Royal Oak, MI on 04 Oct 2017 at 1:56 pm #

    Here is the second one:


  49. Mark from TTown on 04 Oct 2017 at 2:47 pm #

    Steve, down South it’s more often barges knocking river bridges askew. Or train derailments.

    And I hear you on the two buttons. Believe me, I do!

  50. TruckerRon on 04 Oct 2017 at 3:51 pm #

    A story of friendship and service:


  51. emb on 04 Oct 2017 at 6:49 pm #

    Trucker: Neat. Below; BC Steller’s sea lions, w/ sound effects. The ones more often seen in zoos are the smaller California s. l. Peace,


  52. Jerry in Fl on 04 Oct 2017 at 7:26 pm #

    Mum’s the word. Mark, my “new” CPAP machine is ageing well and someday I’m going to get it out of the closet and begin using it. I think that I will do that tomorrow.

  53. JACKQULINE MONIES on 04 Oct 2017 at 7:44 pm #

    Jerry you should be using your CPAP. Ghost is insistent that I use mine because I stop breathing over 60 times per hour. Needless to say I need it.

    Went for followup and the computers on machine not only show I comply but my apnea is now controlled. It kills you know.

  54. Jerry in Fl on 04 Oct 2017 at 7:57 pm #

    Thanks, but I plan on dying some day anyway. Being a cat person, I think, you may agree with this: Life is like scooping the litter box. You never know what you’re going to get.

  55. Mark from TTown on 04 Oct 2017 at 7:59 pm #

    Yes, apnea contributes to hypertension, depression, stroke and quite a few other things.

    My most recent sleep study showed that my waking incidents without CPAP had increased from around 75 per hour to over 90. Of course, I had not had a study since 2010. But with the machine I slept soundly in all positions without a problem. And my pressure requirement has not changed at all. The doctor said he was prescribing a new type of machine for me, which is set to provide varying pressures within a range, and adjusts itself to deliver only as much as I need at any time. Looking forward to that.

  56. Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 04 Oct 2017 at 8:26 pm #

    Strip of 10.04.17:

    Has it occurred to anyone else that our country is so incredibly rich that we can afford to use food as yard and porch decorations?

    I wonder if there is anyone in this country who doesn’t realize how incredibly lucky we are to live here.

  57. Steve From Royal Oak, MI on 04 Oct 2017 at 9:08 pm #

    I realize that not everyone can adjust to a CPAP, but given a chance it can make a great difference. Maybe all is needed is a different mask.

    Jerry’s comment reminded me of my wife’s Grandma who lived nearly to her 101st birthday. When she was in her late 80′s she complained about taking all of her medicine and told the Doctor that she wasn’t afraid to die. He told her “You would be LUCKY to die.” “You could have a stoke and be incapacitated forcing your son to have to take care of you and draining all of his resources”

    She took her medicine regularly and didn’t have that stroke until 3 weeks before she died.

  58. Ghost on 04 Oct 2017 at 9:14 pm #

    To Jackie, via a Book of Face correspondent:

    God looked down upon the Earth and saw much that was evil going on. He decided to check out how bad it really was, so He sent one of His wisest angels to Earth for a time. When the angel returned, the report was “Yes, it is really bad on Earth; 90% of the people are evil and only 10% are good.”

    God thought for a moment and said “That report is so bad that I will send down a second angel, to get another point of view.”

    When the second angel returned, the report was the same…90% of the people were evil and only 10% are good. God, knowing this was very bad indeed, decided to send a personal email to the 10% that were good, as a way to encourage them and to give them something to help them keep going in the right path.

    Do you know what that E-mail said?

    Nah, me neither.

  59. Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 04 Oct 2017 at 9:17 pm #


    That is what happened to my paternal grandfather. He had a devastating stroke and was housebound for about 15 or 16 years. Two of my aunts were young and unmarried, and they put their lives on hold to take care of their dad.

    The financial strain, so I have been told, was considerable, and my dad sent as much money as he could to help them.

    Not too long after Granddad passed in 1964, my aunts married. One of them was still able to have a child.

    In 2007, I lost Dad to a stroke. He was 83 and was living a full and active life. In 2009, I lost my younger brother – my only sibling – to a stroke at age 51. Both were gone within minutes, thankfully.

    I think I know what will most likely take me. To forestall that event, I strictly follow my doctor’s recommendations.

  60. JACKQULINE MONIES on 04 Oct 2017 at 9:18 pm #

    My mom lived to 96 with no illness other than mild dementia, literally walking out of bathroom and heart stopping. Not dying is the problem, asmy great grandmother and grandmother did.
    Lingering for years and years unable to speak or walk, partially paralyzed or demented is far worse than death.

    Unfortunately unless we are suicidial we have no choice. I choose to take the meds and have the treatments and use the CPAP.

  61. Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 04 Oct 2017 at 9:19 pm #


    Love one another, and do nothing that will bring undeserved harm to another.

    Easy to write. Hard to live.

  62. Jerry in Fl on 04 Oct 2017 at 9:21 pm #

    I make light of my procrastination, but it has been a problem all of my life and how I ended up where I am I have no idea. CAUTION! run on sentence ahead. I know that I need to be using the CPAP machine and I promise to try and make myself do it because while I know that I will die someday, I just don’t want it to be today and tomorrow I will feel the same and the next day and so forth.

  63. JACKQULINE MONIES on 04 Oct 2017 at 9:39 pm #

    Good Jerry. I use a mask that doesn’t cover my face because I am claustrophobic. It sits on top of lip and blows into nose. I look weird I know and not cute. Ghost loves me enough to wake me up when it slips off.

    I put it on anytime I am at risk of falling asleep, like watching tv or reading. Our new truck will allow me to use it as passenger to nap, something I have never been able to do because of stopping breathing.

    By the way, that stops your heart too.

  64. Steve From Royal Oak, MI on 04 Oct 2017 at 10:02 pm #

    Sorry Jerry. I know that you are fighting many battles and didn’t mean to call you out. Your comment just touched off a vivid memory that reminded me that she didn’t give up. So hang in there

  65. Old Bear on 04 Oct 2017 at 10:51 pm #

    GM Debbe & Mizz Charlotte

    4 inches of rain Sunday & Monday

  66. Jerry in Fl on 04 Oct 2017 at 11:24 pm #

    A hurricane right over me Sunday night! Nobody told me about this. I’ve noticed that it was a little more windy than normal for this time of year. Which is why I’ve already removed the cushions from the outside furniture, so come on and give it your best shot.

  67. Charlotte in NH on 04 Oct 2017 at 11:37 pm #

    Good evening to Debbe and to Old Bear. I was just thinking of greeting you, but you got in ahead of me. We haven’t heard from Debbe for a while; what’s up with that? Internet problems?

    Seriously helpful advice from Jackie and from Rick and Steve. It’s all good to hear, and you are so sensible and caring.

    Old Bear, that is a lot of rain! And Accuweather tells us that you guys are going to get lots more? I sure hope it doesn’t get so bad.

    On a less vital note, I’ve spent the better part of yesterday and today fighting with my iPad AND my desktop computer (with Windows 10) trying to get them back on the ‘Net on my WiFi connection. It wasn’t easy since I know so little about the workings of these devices. But I’m happy to say that I did it! All by myself!

  68. JACKQULINE MONIES on 04 Oct 2017 at 11:57 pm #

    Hurricane is tropical depression 16 which is supposed to hit Florida Panhandle Sunday night around Pensacola.

  69. Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 05 Oct 2017 at 5:05 am #

    Speaking of strokes, is everyone aware that Brooke McEldowney is recovering from a recent stroke?

  70. TruckerRon on 05 Oct 2017 at 7:52 am #

    Yes, I saw that on his Pibgorn site. He wrote a bit about it when he started repeating the current story. He didn’t give details, but for those of us of a certain age it’s usually the result of untreated atrial fibrillation (afib).

  71. The formerly dry person known as sandcastler on 05 Oct 2017 at 7:54 am #

    Ruh, roo. A new Arlo look?

  72. Trapper Jean on 05 Oct 2017 at 8:44 am #

    Fifteen years or so ago a doctor I was going to at the time sent me off for an apnea test, and it was decided I needed a CPAP machine. I had trouble getting used to it, and eventually quit. Several years ago my pulmonary specialist had me take another test, and said he didn’t see any reason I should have been on a CPAP at all. And yes, he had the results of the first test. Honestly, some days I think my doctors use the old dartboard method of deciding what’s wrong and what to do about it.

  73. emb on 05 Oct 2017 at 9:03 am #

    Today’s herpetology bit. [I've not read the new posts yet.]



  74. JACKQULINE MONIES on 05 Oct 2017 at 9:36 am #

    Good morning. I am going off in search of Darned Good Chile mix in pantry. For lunch, Ghost is craving chile and almost ate canned. Instant cornbread with bacon, cheese and fresh jalapenos as a side. And cole slaw.

    Feel better.

  75. Mark from TTown on 05 Oct 2017 at 9:42 am #


  76. Steve from Royal Oak, MI on 05 Oct 2017 at 10:50 am #

    I’ve used canned chili and mixed it ground beef and a few other spices. I also like to add beans to mine, but I don’t want to start a civil war here about putting beans in chili!

  77. Jerry in Fl on 05 Oct 2017 at 12:31 pm #

    The storm is currently in the southern portion of central America. The predicted path over north Florida has been moved west to Pensacola and plotted all the way to Charlotte in NH. Given the accuracy of their long-range forecast so far this year that makes me feel a lot better.*


  78. JACKQULINE MONIES on 05 Oct 2017 at 1:32 pm #

    I love beans in chili and in fact like vegetarian chili. Gasp!!!

    Also white chili which is shredded chicken and white beans, onions, green chile peppers.

  79. JACKQULINE MONIES on 05 Oct 2017 at 1:41 pm #

    Found some really good fall recipes last night including squash chile.

  80. David in Austin on 05 Oct 2017 at 2:12 pm #

    Steve, I do too… and I’ve lived in Texas for over 25 years. I call it “chili con carne y frijoles.”

  81. Ghost on 05 Oct 2017 at 2:32 pm #

    Re recent discussion re CPAP machines: I’ve never diagnosed with sleep apnea, but Jackie has convinced me to be tested, for which I have an appointment. Last night, I told her if we both had machines, it might be rather odd. I then proceeded to crack her up with my impression of Darth Vader and Mrs. Vader making love. Needless to say, the impression involved lots of heavy breathing.

  82. Mark from TTown on 05 Oct 2017 at 2:32 pm #


  83. Mark from TTown on 05 Oct 2017 at 2:33 pm #

    Ghost, that’s a good one. I’ve often thought the CPAPS sounded like Darth Vader’s breathing machine.

  84. TruckerRon on 05 Oct 2017 at 3:09 pm #

    That’s been an inside-the-family gag since I got mine 7.5 years ago.

    “Dawn, I am your father!”
    “Goodnight, Daddy!” (followed by indistinct mumbling about being time to end the joke).

  85. JACKQULINE MONIES on 05 Oct 2017 at 3:41 pm #

    I said with two sets of CPAP hoses and masks possibly getting tangled up we might end up looking like a giant octopus or squid tentacles.

  86. TruckerRon on 05 Oct 2017 at 5:21 pm #

    Or Doc & Mrs Ock (Otto and Rosalie Octavius)?


  87. Jerry in Fl on 05 Oct 2017 at 7:13 pm #

    For anyone that may not know it is possible now to test yourself at home. You don’t need to do a sleep test somewhere else. Otherwise Ghost, that’s TMI.

  88. Ruth Anne in Winter Park on 05 Oct 2017 at 8:25 pm #

    Today’s Writer’s Almanac started out with “Some Advice on Clearing Brush” – a nice poem and good suggestions. https://writersalmanac.org/episodes/20171005/

  89. TruckerRon on 05 Oct 2017 at 10:37 pm #

    Using anything less than a GPS system with a database for big rigs will get truckers into tight squeezes!


  90. Laura from AR on 06 Oct 2017 at 6:19 am #

    I sure have enjoyed catching up with the posts from the last three days . I had sharp chest pains Tuesday morning and ended up calling 911. The ambulance took me to the hospital and I was there until yesterday afternoon. They did a heart catch and found no blockages. My a-fib was acting up like crazy. (That’s heart cath) I had decided on the defibrilator implant and was to talk to the cardiac surgeon in November. That’s been moved up l talk to him today.
    The funny stories and news items surewere good to see . They are a nice reprieve from the world’s woes.
    Jackie, I’m so glad that you are getting better and that you have someone there tocare for you.

  91. Nancy in Bucks County PA on 06 Oct 2017 at 7:58 am #

    TruckerRon, did you see this one?


  92. TruckerRon on 06 Oct 2017 at 8:59 am #

    Nancy, no, I hadn’t seen that… but I did notice that both rigs were from the same trucking company! I believe the CRST safety department needs to put out a bulletin emphasizing that inexpensive GPS units for cars are NOT to be relied on when driving a company truck. You’ve got to use the more expensive one with the database that avoids roads that cannot handle big rigs because of hazards like low bridges.

    Also, part of the training has to include the directive that when things start to go wrong, STOP THE TRUCK! You can’t muscle your way out of a tight squeeze. Get out, access the situation, call for a tow truck if needed or for local police to help you back out.

  93. TruckerRon on 06 Oct 2017 at 9:04 am #

    Laura from AR: You might want to check out some online support groups for ICD recipients. I’m associated with http://www.icdsupportgroup.org (if you’re interested read to the bottom of that first page to find the registration link).

  94. Ghost on 06 Oct 2017 at 9:13 am #

    GPS NAV (Apple version) once tried to get me to drive down a boat ramp and across 200 yards of Lake Eufaula.

  95. JACKQULINE MONIES on 06 Oct 2017 at 9:59 am #

    When I hired Tony to drive with me to get my boat Stella it was first time I’d driven with a professional driver. Tony has driven for 37 years. It was very educational.

    Tony said I was only “civilian” he’d ever known who drove and thought like a trucker.

  96. emb on 06 Oct 2017 at 10:09 am #

    Greater kudu, N. Am. prickly pear.


  97. emb on 06 Oct 2017 at 10:13 am #

    Learned to refer to civilians when I wasn’t one, USAF ’51-’53, but have since done that, using it to refer to laity outside whatever appropriate profession or ingroup. Peace,

  98. Steve from Royal Oak, MI on 06 Oct 2017 at 2:10 pm #

    A year ago we drove to Atlanta and between turning too soon and almost driving on a wrong way street or glancing down and nearly rear-ending the vehicle in front of me, I realized that having the sound feature on and having my wife monitoring it was the safest method to go.

    We train to Chicago and Uber everywhere or sometimes take the El. It might cost a bit more and we lose the spontaneity due to the train schedules, but it is much easier on the nerves not worrying about parking, getting lost or getting into an accident.

    Driving down to Fort Wayne to celebrate the 40th anniversary of my step-mother’s 40th birthday. After my mom died, my Dad remarried less than a year later to someone that we had known for 10 years. Even though he has been gone for 15 years, she is appreciative of the way that we treat her. We were lucky to have had a great step-mother and she is lucky to have step-children that were so accepting and “drama-free”.

  99. Laura from AR on 06 Oct 2017 at 4:54 pm #

    Trucker Ron
    Thank you for the info. It. Looks like something I could use. I have been scheduled for the implantation in a couple of weeks. I hope nothing comes up to interfere. I’m nervous enough as it is.

  100. Ghost on 06 Oct 2017 at 5:00 pm #

    iowahawk, on reports that archaeologists may have found Paul Revere’s privy:

    “#1 if by land, #2 if by sea”

  101. emb on 06 Oct 2017 at 6:15 pm #

    Peregrines nest here in warmer weather, and sometimes es gibt lots of sea birds, but the scenery itself is a treat. Peace,


  102. emb on 06 Oct 2017 at 6:22 pm #

    Privies are archaeological gold mines. More often porcelain mines, and also pollen mines, if the privy itself decays in time for windblown pollen to blow in. One of BSU’s prize biology grads became a Ph.D. ethnobotanist, who specialized in studying pollen at Paleoindian sites. Died young [45-50ish, scleroderma; nasty disease]. An exam rm. in our new cancer unit w/b named in her memory. Girders going up currently.


  103. Ghost on 06 Oct 2017 at 6:43 pm #

    Trip to Tulsa to see the plastic surgeon today had mixed results; we thought, based on decreased output the last couple of days, Jackie would get her two chest tubes pulled. Oddly, one of the drains got very active while she was showering this morning, so that one has to in stay until at least Monday. But the other drain is gone, and we will take any progress we can get.

    We got to talk to one of the younger office nurses, a really sweetie and easy to look at, as well. We were talking about procedures, and she volunteered that she’d had some cosmetic work done herself. Not too surprising for someone working for a cosmetic surgeon, but it was so well done that even the Mark I Calibrated Ghostly Eyeball could not tell for sure before she said. Her boss is a real artist.

  104. Ghost on 06 Oct 2017 at 9:02 pm #

    Last night, Jackie prepared a large pot of yellow split-pea soup (and you may have thought all split-peas were green) and refrigerated it for our evening meal tonight. It was made from Polish sausage and a ham hock and lots of chopped fresh veggies and various seasonings. I decided the only thing that might improve that was a loaf of rustic beer bread, which I proceeded to bake.* The combination worked. And the leftover bread will be used for French toast with fresh strawberries tomorrow morning.

    *Jackie just advised me she posted a photo of the loaf of beer bread on Book of Face, and it is apparently garnering a number of favorable comments. So if any of you FBers want to see it…

  105. Mark from TTown on 06 Oct 2017 at 9:20 pm #

    The pickup of the new CPAP machine provided a bit of pleasant scenery as well. The respiratory tech was quite attractive, dark red hair and green eyes. And the new machine will be a huge improvement over the old one I’ve been using. Smaller, quieter and smarter. Sends usage information, etc, to the VA via cell signal so they can track my progress and call me in for adjustments.

  106. Mark from TTown on 06 Oct 2017 at 9:25 pm #


  107. JACKQULINE MONIES on 06 Oct 2017 at 9:36 pm #

    Ghost likes soups as much as I do. We have amazingly similar tastes in almost everything. He read off his list of soup

  108. JACKQULINE MONIES on 06 Oct 2017 at 9:39 pm #

    Recipes and just so varied. I want to eat the turnip one.

    His bread was delicious.

    Split peas come in oranges, reds, black, browns and dozens of shades. Play important role in Indian cookery and that region.

  109. Ruth Anne in Winter Park on 06 Oct 2017 at 9:59 pm #

    Ghost: a little dill seed is good in beer bread and might have gone well with that soup.

  110. Old Bear on 06 Oct 2017 at 10:24 pm #

    RA I second that

    I also like a few Dill Seed when boiling rice.

  111. Old Bear on 07 Oct 2017 at 1:26 am #

    GM Debbe & Mizz Charlotte

  112. Steve From Royal Oak, MI on 07 Oct 2017 at 6:27 am #

    My old machine was making noise, so they came out and replaced it. However I saved the old machine and last year when I went to Mackinac Island, several people took the wrong machine from the ferry boat we were on, so I used the old machine for several days until I got mine back.

    My machine has me use the water reservoir, which is like a built in humidifier, which really helps as my sinus don’t act up as much. Keeping it clean is critical. Sorry to those who don’t use the machine as you probably get sick of us talking about it.

  113. emb on 07 Oct 2017 at 6:36 am #

    Reticulated giraffe, oxpeckers. Gazelles at adjacent sites. Peace,


  114. emb on 07 Oct 2017 at 7:01 am #

    Reminds me of Tom Lehrer’s ‘Fight fiercely, Harvard.’



  115. emb on 07 Oct 2017 at 7:03 am #

    Buncha hippos at that first site now.

  116. Mark from TTown on 07 Oct 2017 at 8:51 am #

    Thanks, Jackie: https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22196142_1509285615803468_6570135191279226494_n.jpg?oh=3a373e58be6c1dd9e877fefa8a16689c&oe=5A440D27

  117. Mark from TTown on 07 Oct 2017 at 8:52 am #

    And a cat funny for Debbe: https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22154276_1819140691468237_8294738515327026760_n.jpg?oh=be9396b0d2ba81f8dc1956ac25676ec9&oe=5A831490

    Where are you, anyway?

  118. emb on 07 Oct 2017 at 9:32 am #



  119. Trapper Jean on 07 Oct 2017 at 9:39 am #

    Jackie, I like most soups, but have never cared for split pea. It could be that the first split pea soup I had was just poorly made and I am letting that color my thinking. One of these days I might wander out your way and you and Ghost Sweetie can show me the error of my thinking.

  120. Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 07 Oct 2017 at 9:44 am #

    I don’t think I am a Grammar Nazi, but certain errors irritate me, especially when I hear them on NPR. Yesterday’s offerings within ten minutes:

    None are…

    There has been three elections…

    There is many reasons…

  121. TruckerRon on 07 Oct 2017 at 10:17 am #

    Rick, the grammar error that bothers me most, especially with NPR, is the confusion over the use of “and I” and “and me.” Given that the former can be reduced to “we” and the latter to “us,” well, it really grates on my ears.

  122. Mark from TTown on 07 Oct 2017 at 11:08 am #


  123. JACKQULINE MONIES on 07 Oct 2017 at 1:19 pm #

    Now I am thinking of making BLT soup which I have not made in decades or eaten but was wonderful. I will look for recipe.

    Another I love is stuffed pepper soup which is what it sounds like, green or colored peppers, ground meat, rice, onions, tomatoes.

    It is officially fall but still hot here. Still, one thinks of autumnal offerings. I took out two beautiful pork chops and I am thinking maple glazed with apple nut compote on side with sweet potatoes baked.

  124. curmudgeonly ex-professor on 07 Oct 2017 at 1:32 pm #

    Speaking of delicious things, my MBH found – a few days ago – a box of my favorite Claxton fruitcake in the freezer! I suppose it has been there since last Christmas, but that is fine with me. Said cake will not live to see suppertime…. YUM!

  125. Llee on 07 Oct 2017 at 2:26 pm #

    yum :)

    Split pea soup (Momma’s recipe)….. bag of green split peas. Big pot of water. Heat. Too thin! Add instant potatoes. Hmmm perhaps too thick now? Add water. Too thin? Add more instant potatoes…and repeat water/potatoes several times more. Don’t add salt. Perhaps add a lot of pepper. No other seasonings or vegetables. (Do NOT let this cool in the pot unless the pot is no longer required)

  126. Jerry in Fl on 07 Oct 2017 at 2:32 pm #

    It is calm and overcast here. I am prepared for tropical storm winds tonight out of the southeast. The storm will probably come in west of us and then curve north of us so what weather we have will probably last most of the night. I know from Hurricane Ivan in 2004 that the sound of wind whistling can be more scary in the dark, but we don’t expect high winds from this storm. If you don’t hear from me tomorrow it means the power is out. Debbe, you better not do a Denise on us.

  127. emb on 07 Oct 2017 at 2:39 pm #

    Rick, Trucker, Mark: Nice to have company, + something to send to 2 blind-cc groups. Peace,

  128. JACKQULINE MONIES on 07 Oct 2017 at 2:52 pm #

    Llee, that sounds awful! Sorry, insulting your mama’s recipe.

    I am pouring body fluids from remaining drain and Ghost is making me remain sedentary. Hard to do. I wanted to cook but he is off in search of bacon cheeseburgers from I Smell Bacon downtown.

  129. Llee on 07 Oct 2017 at 2:57 pm #

    It WAS awful! :) But I was just trying to make folks laugh.
    A cheeseburger sounds great- maybe a trip to Braum’s is in order. THanks for all the good links, people.

  130. JACKQULINE MONIES on 07 Oct 2017 at 5:07 pm #

    My mama was not often a good cook but my cousins all loved it and ate it enthusiastically.

    I ate my burger and Dickens ate about a third of meat and cheese. I don’t know how he doesn’t look like a doggy inflatable?

  131. Charlotte in NH on 07 Oct 2017 at 5:24 pm #

    Dear Llee, I didn’t realise you were being funny; did think your recipe was quite peculiar! Don’t know if you’re being humorous about the fruitcake, but seriously, I do love fruitcake. Any time of year, but mostly one cannot find it in the stores until Christmastime.

    Pea soup is delicious! Around here either green or yellow split peas are used, for the French-Canadian pea soup traditionally uses yellow peas. You don’t need a ham bone, just some diced ham. Diced onion is nice, carrots also, and I add several whole cloves; a spoonful or two of molasses too — any type of dried bean needs some sweetness, in my opinion. I roll my eyes at food writers that want you to puree a pea or bean soup; cook them longer and they will fall apart; much easier.

    Steve in R O, many of us (I bet) don’t mind at all reading of problems with breathing machines; it’s interesting, each story is different — and I know I am glad that I don’t have to use one. I am fortunate in so many ways, to enjoy good health.

  132. Charlotte in NH on 07 Oct 2017 at 5:44 pm #

    Dear Jackie and Ghost, your mention of turnip soup has intrigued me. Would you use the small, white, purple top ones, or the large yellow ones, I think those are Rutabagas; also kind of purple around the tops? And how is the soup put together?

  133. JACKQULINE MONIES on 07 Oct 2017 at 5:50 pm #

    Being sedentary is hard for me. My body drain is literally pouring fluids. I have an appointment Monday with second surgeon so someone will be looking at this soon.

    Ghost has gone off for a chocolate milkshake at Braums and for me a vanilla soft serve yogurt. He will add fresh blueberries, raspberries and strawberries to mine when he gets it here.

    I am wanting to cook stuff.

  134. JACKQULINE MONIES on 07 Oct 2017 at 5:55 pm #

    Miss Charlotte I will get Ghost to post his. Mine used small white turnips, cooked in chicken or veggie broth, then thickened with a butter and flour mix and heavy cream added, then whirred into a smooth creamy soup or you could leave some cooked turnips slices to add back for texture.

  135. Charlotte in NH on 07 Oct 2017 at 6:02 pm #

    Mmmmm, Jackie. It sounds so good! Thank you and best of luck with getting better soon.

    Lots and lots of love, from The Village.

  136. Ghost on 07 Oct 2017 at 7:12 pm #

    Hi, Llee! I’ve been a bit concerned about you, due to have not having heard anything from you lately. But apparently you are not only OK, you are well enough to be a bit of a smarta$$. :D

    Hi, Jean dear! Yes, we’d love to have you over for some homemade split-pea soup. I guarantee you’ll like Jackie’s’ version of it.

    For those of you who have also noticed Debbe’s absence from the Village, I have it from a reliable source that she is having problems with the power cord for her laptop. She hopes to be back on the grid sometime Monday.

  137. Ghost on 07 Oct 2017 at 7:36 pm #

    Miz Charlotte: The recipe for Creamy Turnip with Paprika Soup follows. There is a bit of a story behind it. Several years ago, I followed the blog of a Soldier during his tour in Afghanistan. His US Army Reserve unit of Combat Engineers was tasked with going out and finding IEDs (hidden bombs) and detonating them before they could kill our troops. On his first date with his fiancé after he returned home, he prepared this favorite soup of theirs.

    Something about celebrating his return to his love that way, after surviving such a dangerous year, struck me as very poignant. So I saved and have prepared his recipe several times.

  138. Ghost on 07 Oct 2017 at 7:38 pm #

    Creamy Turnip with Paprika Soup

    2 tablespoons olive oil
    1 ½ pounds peeled turnip bulbs, not the leafy tops, cut into 1-inch chunks
    1 large onion, cut into large dice
    1 tablespoon butter
    1 pinch sugar
    3 large garlic cloves, thickly sliced
    2 teaspoons paprika
    1 teaspoon dried thyme leaves
    1/8 teaspoon cayenne pepper
    3 cups chicken broth, homemade or from a carton or can
    1 ½ cups half-and-half (or whole milk)
    Salt and freshly ground pepper, to taste

    1. Heat oil over medium-high heat in a large, deep sauté pan until shimmering.
    2. Add turnips, then onion; sauté, stirring very little at first, then more frequently, until vegetables start to turn golden brown, 7 to 8 minutes.
    3. Reduce heat to low and add butter, sugar and garlic; continue cooking until all vegetables are a rich spotty caramel color, about 10 minutes longer.
    4. Add paprika, thyme and cayenne pepper; continue to sauté until fragrant, 30 seconds to 1 minute longer.
    5.Add broth; bring to a simmer over medium-high heat. Reduce heat to low and simmer, partially covered, until turnips are tender, about 10 minutes.
    6. Using an immersion blender or traditional blender, puree until very smooth, 30 seconds to 1 minute. (If using a traditional blender, vent it either by removing the lid’s pop-out center or by lifting one edge of the lid. Drape the blender canister with a kitchen towel. To ‘clean’ the canister, pour in a little half-and-half; blend briefly, then add to the soup.)
    7. Return to pan (or a soup pot); add enough half-and-half so the mixture is soup-like. Taste, and add salt and pepper if needed. Heat through, ladle into bowls, and serve.

  139. Ghost on 07 Oct 2017 at 8:32 pm #

    Be sure to opt for the ballistic armor when you order your new Tactical Urban Vehicle.


    Personally, I like True Grit, the Ford F150, better.

  140. Ghost on 07 Oct 2017 at 8:52 pm #

    Today was a lovely early-autumn day in Eufaula, a perfect day for the main street art-and-crafts festival going on when I drove through downtown early this afternoon. I even saw several sundresses, all of which were being worn by ladies with actual sundress-worthy bodies. Even more amazing was the fact that one of them did not have a single visible tattoo. :)

    I fear it will not be nearly as nice a day in my part of the Deep South tomorrow. In fact, sustained winds are forecast to be >50 MPH after midnight, with gusts to “who-knows”. I hope I don’t have to travel back there next week to pick up any pieces. Even though it has already been raining there for some time, a plus is that the storm is moving so fast that localized flooding may not be as bad as it otherwise would.

  141. emb on 07 Oct 2017 at 9:52 pm #

    Found in Anu Garg’s A.Word.A.Day: This may interest some of you.


    There was a Scientific American article decades back suggesting an even earlier beginning, plus a peer-reviewed journal article by same author[s]. I’d have to dig.


  142. Charlotte in NH on 07 Oct 2017 at 9:57 pm #

    Dearest Ghost, thank you for sending the recipe. I feel honored to have this, with such a touching connection to a man who, with his buddies, risked his life to keep us safe. I will make an attempt at it — should the turnips be the small white ones or the large yellow Rutabaga?

  143. Mark from TTown on 07 Oct 2017 at 10:59 pm #

    Ghost, I discovered that Jackie’s favorite seafood restaurant in Tulsa has a second location that’s not far from the Los Cabos she also likes. Look it up on Google, it’s the one on E Kenosha in Broken Arrow. I think I’ll give it a try next week myself.

  144. Llee on 07 Oct 2017 at 11:43 pm #

    Charlotte, I really enjoy fruitcake.
    Mom just wasn’t a very good cook. A lot of ‘peculiar’ things showed up.
    :) Smart-aleck. Ghost! Been working on that roses painting. It has gotten a little bigger. I was down for a few days but got back to the studio today. It is coming along. I check in on the VIllage, don’t always have words to add but I sure enjoy seeing everyone. Be safe, Jerry.

  145. JACKQULINE MONIES on 08 Oct 2017 at 12:50 am #

    Hi Mark, yes, we have been to both but thank you for suggesting them. It is not a pretentious location, White River Fish in Broken Arrow is just like the old location in style and ambience. Good.

    Miss Charlotte, use small white turnips.

  146. JACKQULINE MONIES on 08 Oct 2017 at 12:56 am #

    I am reading a good sports novel by John Grisham called “Calico Joe.” It is in genre of “The Natural” with a sad, dark plot I have already figured out unless Grisham has misled me into thinking I have figured it out.

    Very authentic with the baseball. If you like baseball and sports novels you’ll like it.

    “Bull Durham” is my favorite sports movie of all.

  147. Ghost on 08 Oct 2017 at 1:30 am #

    Don’t feel bad, Arlo. During the hotel stay following Jackie’s surgery, I accidentally shampooed my hair with body lotion because I was rushed and the danged little bottles are almost identical.

    Now if I could figure out why I’m reminded of the movie “There’s Something About Mary”. Oh, wait. Never mind.

  148. JACKQULINE MONIES on 08 Oct 2017 at 3:53 am #

    About Calico Joe, I was right on dark tragic plot but missed concept of redemption through baseball.

    Wasn’t that explored best in Field of Dreams? Another baseball movie I loved.

  149. Jerry in Fl on 08 Oct 2017 at 4:10 am #

    Jackie, what are you doing up this time of morning. We’re getting some decent rain and just enough wind to be able to hear it and watch my front porch swing move a little. It’s nothing that would keep me from putting on a raincoat and taking a walk. Probably not many people have a raincoat anymore, but I have one courtesy of the US navy. I don’t remember where it came from, but it may have been my Dad’s. For really cold weather I stlll have my army overcoat. Was I supposed to turn that in?

  150. Jerry in Fl on 08 Oct 2017 at 4:43 am #

    Whoops, lights just blinked and wind is gusting a bit, but this is a walk in the park compared to the two in 1995 and Ivan in 2004 and Dennis in 2005.

  151. Jerry in Fl on 08 Oct 2017 at 7:52 am #

    Now raining harder and wind is blowing from all directions at once. This is probably what the morning will be like. I hear a motorcycle in the distance. No comment. The lights are flickering. This is usually how it works with the lights going out after the storm.

  152. Mark from TTown on 08 Oct 2017 at 9:19 am #

    Translate for the joke: https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22281999_1183727891727100_5289547385640771114_n.jpg?oh=f54272a1bcdff288e4d77201ce4abb4f&oe=5A45D7A9

  153. JACKQULINE MONIES on 08 Oct 2017 at 9:34 am #

    Hi Jerry, I was up because I had never gone to sleep. I started reading Calico Joe about 9 and just read on through night. Ghost fell asleep after midnight.

    Didn’t quite finish book but figured out ending pretty much.

    In terms of theme of redemption I love the movie Michael with the charming but revolting John Travolta.

  154. Mark from TTown on 08 Oct 2017 at 10:05 am #

    Great photo by one of Jackie’s friends, was posted on FB: https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22255062_10209617420704771_4980355816323278525_o.jpg?oh=e6d76d1cac467395e1763205f65dcc5c&oe=5A428D00

  155. JACKQULINE MONIES on 08 Oct 2017 at 10:23 am #

    Chuck who did that heron is a fantastic wildlife photographer who likes to shoot birds with a camera. He is also an amazing artist and paints beautiful birds, especially ducks. He enters most of the duck stamp contests nationwide but has not won any.

    Chuck is a real sportsman, avid fisherman and hunter, conservationist. He has a degree in art, yet worked all his life for UPS to support his family. I tell you this so the next time you see a UPS driver you might ask yourself what talents the brown uniform hides?

  156. Ghost on 08 Oct 2017 at 11:09 am #

    John Revolta?

    Hurricane Nate seems to have been “Li’l Nate” rather than “Big Nate”. Apparently my power never even flickered, at least not enough for my alarm system to text me. A few feet of storm surge along the Mississippi Gulf Coast seems to have moved the beach (the sand part of it, anyway; which is artificial, anyway) over on top of US 90, as well as getting some water into the first levels of some of the beach casinos. MDOT is used to handling the highway part of the problem, and the casinos can well afford to get their facilities dried out and back into business. And they will do that in a hurry, as their business is dependent on getting inside all those folks who are outside clamoring for the casinos to take their money.

  157. JACKQULINE MONIES on 08 Oct 2017 at 11:53 am #

    You are funny Ghost! Just for that we are going to watch Revolta scratch himself and burp beer in his underwear tonight in the movie. This will be interesting as I have never turned the tv on and have no idea how.

    Ghost mentioned a lost remote?

  158. emb on 08 Oct 2017 at 12:45 pm #




  159. Mark from TTown on 08 Oct 2017 at 1:03 pm #

    Jackie, I have been enjoying those photos of Chuck’s and thought several people on here would like them too. In particular emb.

  160. Mark from TTown on 08 Oct 2017 at 1:05 pm #

    Another post from FB that is worthy of wider viewing: https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22196146_1728860847132943_4677739750289041730_n.jpg?oh=b090469a53ce0fdf8ed044d7deefcf8d&oe=5A3BC726

  161. JACKQULINE MONIES on 08 Oct 2017 at 2:46 pm #

    Mark I am a huge fan of Chucks wildlife photography and really enjoy his work on Fa ebook. I am not sure but his photos may be public?

    His name is Chuck Rondeau from Washington state if anyone would like to check him out. He is both professional artist and photographer.

  162. Mark from TTown on 08 Oct 2017 at 3:01 pm #

    Here you go: https://chuckrondeau.deviantart.com/

  163. Debbe on 08 Oct 2017 at 8:42 pm #

    Greetings ……and I’m back bigger and better. Bought a desk top, big, big screen, complete with subwoofer and speakers. The laptop bit the dust, the charger broke off inside the laptop and was not fixable. Ian rigged a sewing needle into the charge so that it made contact and kept the laptop charged, but dang the bad luck…it broke too.

    Been listening to Tom Petty……glad I got to see him in concert. He always reminded me of the mad hatter when he wore those top hats. He left us with a lot of good music…sigh. And I have a great speaker system….. :)

    Jackie glad to see you posting. And reading your updates, don’t overdue it….hear me.

    Hello Miss Charlotte…your one post was funny :)

    Good Morning Old Bear…feels good to be back here.

    Hope you survived your storms, Jerry.

    Ian’s working at $ General….have to pick him up at 10:30. he got called in at 5ish. They sure do have a lot of “I didn’t know I had to work” to “I quit”….. If they would pay more, they might get some decent employees….minimum wage it is.

    ….dad’s up for a snack and milk.

    love to all……..


  164. Debbe on 08 Oct 2017 at 8:49 pm #

    I want this cat….the ears and the eyes…


  165. Mark from TTown on 08 Oct 2017 at 8:51 pm #

    Debbe, I know what you mean about lower-paid employees. But the way to make more money is to stick with a job long enough to get experience and a record as a steady employee. Then go for the next higher level and just keep at it. You’ll get there and the folks who didn’t try will be the ones who never rise above the minimum wage.

  166. Debbe on 08 Oct 2017 at 8:52 pm #

    …and tell me who hasn’t felt a lego, barefoot, heading to the bathroom in the middle of night???


  167. Debbe on 08 Oct 2017 at 8:56 pm #

    Mark, that is what I am encouraging Ian to do.

    They have built a bigger $General here, and it’s going to be chaotic at Christmas. So far, when Ian has been scheduled off, they’ve called him and he goes in…..that looks good on him too.

  168. Jerry in l on 09 Oct 2017 at 12:27 am #

    Light rain most of the day. I have some leaf , small branch and pine cone picking up to do tomorrow. No power or other issues. Hello Debbe, glad to see that you’re back. I hope that no one went to Vegas this weekend. Cruisin the Coast at Biloxi is something that I’ve wanted to do for years and this year my procrastination worked to my advantage. Maybe next year.

  169. Debbe on 09 Oct 2017 at 6:30 am #

    good morning Villagers……

    Thank you , Jerry

    Dad has a walnut tree next to the road. The ground is covered with round, green walnuts. Some roll or fall on the road. You should hear them ‘pop’ when a car wheel rolls over it. Some would think they just had a blow out.

    Today’s grin: https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9080746752/h9A296791/


  170. Trapper Jean on 09 Oct 2017 at 9:04 am #

    The one thing that is possibly worse than Legos are the burrs from sweetgum trees. Stepping on those suckers barefoot can ruin your whole day!


  171. Trapper Jean on 09 Oct 2017 at 9:10 am #

    To finish the post I started before a cat walked over my desk…those burrs were the scourge of my childhood. My grandparents had a huge sweetgum in the middle of their back yard and it was nearly impossible to avoid stepping on the burrs. ouch!

  172. emb on 09 Oct 2017 at 9:44 am #

    Coyote again, likely the same one.



  173. emb on 09 Oct 2017 at 9:48 am #

    Too far N for sweetgum, and no Lego-aged kids herein since we bought this place in ’05. No solid frosts yet, though some likely in low spots. Peace,

  174. JACKQULINE MONIES on 09 Oct 2017 at 10:14 am #

    Still have one drain from under left arm. Not expecting to get it out today but we are on way to Tulsa to see breast cancer surgeon. I have two, one for cancer, one for plastic surgery.

    I looked over at Ghost driving the F-150 King Ranch pickup and he looks so authentic driving it. ” Like a bear in his natural environment. “

  175. emb on 09 Oct 2017 at 10:36 am #

    Visited coyote again. It just got up, looks ready for morning coffee.



  176. JACKQULINE MONIES on 09 Oct 2017 at 11:33 am #

    What are the smaller animals moving around and eating? Prairie dogs?

    I saw several bison in background.

    Trying to persuade Ghost to drive up to Pawhuska to the tall grass preserve this afternoon afternoon. It is about an hour outside Tulsa and has over 2,500 bison.

  177. TruckerRon on 09 Oct 2017 at 11:49 am #

    It looks like the coyote is focusing on the one prairie dog that’s acting as sentinel, sitting by a hole and keeping an eye on the coyote. All the other ‘dogs’ are moving about and feeding.

  178. TruckerRon on 09 Oct 2017 at 4:10 pm #

    Aesop was right!


  179. David in Austin on 09 Oct 2017 at 5:16 pm #

    “Like a bear in his natural environment…” Hope is doesn’t do what the bear normally does “in the woods” while in the truck! :D

  180. David in Austin on 09 Oct 2017 at 5:17 pm #

    Lame predictive… “Hope he doesn’t”

  181. JACKQULINE MONIES on 09 Oct 2017 at 5:38 pm #

    It’s a quote from The Muppet Movie and Fozzie the Bear.


  182. emb on 09 Oct 2017 at 5:51 pm #

    That ‘hare’ [Lepus sp.] don’t look like no hare, but rather a flop-eared domestic rabbit [Oryctolagus cuniculus], possibly a pet.

    Ages ago, a newsletter or some such from The Wildlife Soc. [which publishes The J. of Wildlife Mgt.], had a short note titled, I believe, ‘Does a bear go in the woods?’ This was in grizzly country, in a mix of open and wooded land, and they’d done a survey of bear scat using some method equally likely to detect it in either habitat. Almost all the poop was in the open country.


  183. JACKQULINE MONIES on 09 Oct 2017 at 6:59 pm #

    Interesting afternoon day trip after my surgery appointment. We got close to the bison but not to preserve. We ended in little town of Pawhuska home of Ree Drummond of Pioneer Woman on Food Network.

    We lucked out and managed to just walk in without standing in line. Food was delicious and huge portions. I will let Ghost tell story but what she has done and is doing has revitalized her little town. I was impressd.

    They serve 2000 on average day and up to 5000 on busy days in a town of 3500!

    Plan is to get up early and go eat breakfast there, buy one of her picnic boxes and go spend day looking at bison and Flint Hills.

  184. Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 09 Oct 2017 at 7:07 pm #

    Sunday, we drove to the Clay Center in Charleston, WV, for Mountain Stage.

    The five performances were fantastic, and the venue was astounding.

  185. Debbe on 09 Oct 2017 at 7:07 pm #

    Jackie….what time do you want me to call you :)

  186. Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 09 Oct 2017 at 7:17 pm #


    This is not about olive trees, but it’ still damn interesting: https://www.damninteresting.com/nugget/ticking-time-palm/

  187. JACKQULINE MONIES on 09 Oct 2017 at 8:06 pm #

    Why didn’t they germinate a few more seeds in hopes of getting a female?

  188. Rick in Shermantown, Ohio on 09 Oct 2017 at 8:33 pm #


    No idea.

    Maybe sexism?

  189. David in Austin on 09 Oct 2017 at 9:26 pm #

    Jackie– I was hinting at a phrase we used when I was in the Army. If someone asked a redundant question that was a certain “yes” answer, the response might be, “Does a bear s–t in the woods?”

    Of course, EMB’s comment would refute that response– at least for grizzlies in mixed terrain. :)

  190. Morphy on 09 Oct 2017 at 9:55 pm #

    “Good morning, Mr. Bear!”

    “Back to you! Say, Mr. Rabbit, do you ever have problems with [feces] sticking to your fur?”

    “Why no, Mr. Bear! Why do you a…” Bear has grabbed bunny bodily in his enormous paw.

    “Well, that’s good news!” Rubbing furiously at his nether regions with a very disappointed bunny. “Thanks, Mr. Rabbit. Have a good day.”

    Had a friend long ago that could voice and act this joke in such a way that it could be recalled at anytime with good effect. It is the only thing I can think of every time I see those toilet paper commercials with the colorful bear family. I think it is Northern brand?

  191. Mark from TTown on 09 Oct 2017 at 10:15 pm #

    No, the bears replaced Mr. Whipple.

  192. Morphy on 09 Oct 2017 at 10:46 pm #

    Ah, thanks Mark. I must have crossed Charmin with Quilted Northern. And now I cannot recall their ad campaign. Yes, Mr. Whipple was a high strung character.

  193. TruckerRon on 09 Oct 2017 at 11:02 pm #

    Just got back from outing with wife and our youngest. We drove the “Alpine Loop” which starts at US-189 on UT-92, goes up past Sundance Resort, around the east side of Mt Timpanogos, and comes down eventually past Timpanogos Cave National Monument and back into our valley. They got to admire the leaves while I negotiated a few dozen tight switchbacks, then we stopped at a trailhead at about 6,500 feet where the Rangers host star parties in the summer.

    There we had our sandwiches and chips as the sky darkened. I set up the telescope and found that Saturn was actually above the mountain range to our south. My daughter, who had only looked at things here in town, was impressed with how much more we could see without light pollution. But they both were unhappy with the 32F at that altitude tonight.

    The skies would have been even darker at Payson Lakes campground at 8,000 feet, but it’s a bit colder there, so, I was outvoted. :(

    I’m looking forward to delivery tomorrow of my latest Amazon order: long johns and a 13% moon filter. I refuse to be a warm-weather astronomer!

  194. Old Bear on 10 Oct 2017 at 12:08 am #


    Just do not listen!
    You `re not fat!
    You bist fluffy!

    GM Debbe
    Walnut husks make great dye when they turn brown
    and the nuts I use in cooking. We have 2 trees in the yard
    and every year we have several bushels of nuts. The squirrels
    get many so there are new trees all over. Luckily the mower gets most of them.

  195. Steve from Royal Oak, MI on 10 Oct 2017 at 8:13 am #

    Less than an hour. I am betting that Jimmy posts something very soon.

  196. Mark from TTown on 10 Oct 2017 at 8:22 am #

    Debbe: https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14523020_871708816262900_3362190148674746608_n.jpg?oh=f3361bab275c3e8fe6e38f273917bde8&oe=5A835427

  197. Mark from TTown on 10 Oct 2017 at 8:23 am #

    and one more: https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22281702_1176273132473132_1142445363718357751_n.jpg?oh=5fef01bead53bf8c27610316489da120&oe=5A7772E9

  198. Mark from TTown on 10 Oct 2017 at 9:00 am #