Confront Zone

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Here’s an old A&J Sunday from the more recent past, 2004. I’ll get back to the truly older material soon, as I’ve really enjoyed going through it with you, but I don’t have much time today. In case you’re wondering, the newer material is stored digitally and much easier to access. The older cartoons must be scanned and edited anew, by me.

57 responses to “Confront Zone”

  1. Oh. I love this one! Now I have to confess, I don’t take back the dead plants either but you should HEAR the stories on internet gardening sites by those who do.

    Guaranteed plants are seldom guaranteed.

    Love, Jackie

  2. Ha! There was a point were it seemed every other sirloin or tenderloin that I got from the local grocery store was butchered from a red cutter (they didn’t bleed the carcass properly at the slaughterhouse), which end up tasting like liver. I got so fed up, I finally tried to return one, completely cooked. It took like 30 minutes of back and forth, my getting increasingly angry, and a call to the store manager to get my $8. I’m sure I was the talk of the dinner table at that customer service lady’s house. After 3 returns and a talk with the “meat guy”, it improved dramatically. I probably cost some guy his throat slitting job somewhere, and he has no idea why.

  3. Hm, never had the problem. But, then, we don’t buy plants often, the last being a female pomegranate to date our big male pom. We did get a few fruits off that lady this year. The fig tree is huge, which is a shame cause nobody here likes figs. Every year I ask my Sunday School if anybody likes figs and a few of them will admit it and they get bunches. My friend the front office manager has a plum tree that she has the same problem with. Our Bosc pear tree is yielding fruit and we eat some, can the rest. It is just a young tree so not much. My art teacher gave away green peppers two weeks ago, which I cut up and froze. The traditional zucchini over-production doesn’t apply to us cause we only have two plants and we eat it all.

  4. During the 1930’s depression era, my grandmother ran a canning kitchen for the area farm wives and workers and never overcame that mentality. We gardened and canned for survivalist standards.

    According to Ghost, that may come in handy knowing soon!

    It came in handy when I ran upscale bake sales to raise money for things like historic preservation or fund raising for church building. And it has produced some fine eating as well for some people.

    Normally I don’t reminisce about “walking two miles in the snow each way” to catch the bus to school. But I grew up and lived and currently live in areas of poverty. That does not mean the people are not to be respected or admired.

    Yes, I have had lots of wealth and advantages off and on in between. But we should never forget!

    Love, Jackie Monies

  5. There is the generation of those who lived through the depression era and then there is the generation (to which I belong) that constantly heard about the depression from our parents and lived the same lifestyle of denial. “Hey, only half a spoonful of sugar on your cereal. Do you think we are made of money?”

  6. Tom, you are so right! I often felt like we were still living it! Which we kind of did.

    My step dad made great wealth through cautious investing and some insider information. Yet I came to visit once, house totally dark, he was watching a black and white t.v. by an oil lamp. Took us in to show us his $9 utility bill.

    Love, Jackie

  7. It’s kind of a joke with my generation. Whenever we waste something like half-burned candles or plastic tableware, we would always get from our grandparents, “If you had lived through the Depression…” you would have burned those candle stubs (or washed off that plastic-ware and put it away) and been *GLAD* to get it. My grandfather was the worst. When I would throw away an empty jar of peanut butter, he would fish it out of the trash and point to the pb still clinging to the sides. “A soldier at Stalingrad could have lived a full day on what you throw away.” (Yeah, I get my WWII buffness from him). My father thought it was funny and would imitate him later, and so did other kids’ parents, I guess, cause when we start off on that “old person voice” ( like Margaret Hamilton in Wizard of Oz) ““If you had lived through the Depression…” everybody always laughs.

  8. This strip is one of my favorites, it’s in my work screen saver rotation. My wife will return things I would never dream of. Arlo, just drive around and hand her money when you get back or buy a replacement

  9. What if people like the survivalists are right? I am not one, nor do I hoard weapons and ammunition like some I know probably, but today’s climate of terrorists and radicalizations is scary.

    How long would any of us survive? I once did a column along those lines and boats, half tongue in cheek, called “Could You Get Off the Island?” It was about how todays’ boat building skills would hardly enable anyone to make a raft because we all rely on power tools, epoxy and fiberglass even on wooden boats.

    During the Cold War and nuclear fears we all talked about the same thing, only survivalists then built bomb shelters and stocked them. I remember that vividly.

    My home gardening is a fun thing and we enjoy anything I manage to grow. Very small scale and not organic but sorta organic.

    Meat, now that’s another pet peeve of mine. I will not buy meat from most big chain grocers because I want to know my butcher personally and have them know my name too. And they know I can cut it too, if need be, which I can of course.

    Love, Jackie

  10. RE: emb 3:32 yesterday, reminds me Bill Cosby telling how as a kid he tried mixing some grape jelly with his acne cream. . today to get past the flesh color problem of band-aids they make them with cartoon characters and stuff on them

  11. Jackie, I’m not a “prepper” or a “survivalist”, but I do think it prudent to be prepared to survive less-than-optimal-but-still-survivable conditions. Many who lived in New Orleans and points east when Katrina made landfall learned how things can turn out when one has to depend on someone else to come pull one’s chestnuts out of the water. (Hint: It didn’t turn out too well for many of them.) And for those who would argue “that was then, this is now”, I eagerly await their evidence that the USG and its alphabet agencies are any more prepared, competent or “carrying” now than then.

    In a time when we could be thoroughly screwed as a civilization if the Ebola virus mutates into an airborne stain, I am not encouraged by the number of people in this country who have not only never heard of the Ebola virus, but who would probably say the worst possible disaster they can imagine is for FaceBook or Twitter to be down for more than 24 hours.

  12. The genius of today’s retro strip is that Arlo is being forced to fight Janis’ battle; one that she won’t wage, but has no compunction about sending her husband to do. I have been in his position more than a few times over 38 years of marriage.

    The flipside, of course, is that (to my personal knowledge), husbands never send their spouses to fight those battles. I shrug and say, “throw it out and don’t go back to that store.” Why is it that women do this to the men they love?

  13. No problem on returns here. I don’t go to the store, I didn’t buy it, I don’t return it. The only time I will go to the store is to go to Lowes with her so she can use my Veteran’s discount. If I go to the grocery store it is only with her for a few items. I have panic attacks in stores, especially Stuff Mart, so I don’t go shopping. If we go to the store she WILL be within arms reach, no question. If she disappears I go to the truck and won’t come back in.

  14. The worse disasters I have had to survive are a couple of hurricanes and flooding, nothing to compare to Katrina, and a couple of ice storms that got water, electricity, roads, trees and houses that trees fell on. Those were as bad as hurricanes. I have not had to survive from tornado but I know a lot of people who have. I do not think we should take our creature comforts for granted, they can disappear so easily.

    We in Oklahoma are close to the results of terrorism as we are today in the current news. So are a few other cities/states but s a whole our country is blessed with relative tranquility.

    Living off and on in a third world nation, and yes, Venezuela is third world, albeit a rich third world, I learned that freedom is worth treasuring. Couple of revolutions I was there for, bombing of pipelines and killing of oil field workers.

    Thank a veteran if you like your freedom is a good quote.

    Love, Jackie

  15. We have 500 gallons of water stored in an old cistern, food for a month in canned and dried stuff, a gasoline generator (with the gas stored in my disused Toyota Corolla), lots of medications and a lot of guns and ammo. They may get me, but they’ll remember me

  16. Jackie, I depend utterly and completely on functioning society and technology. I have taught my daughters to garden, to preserve, and other related functions. I depend on dialysis to provide some functions of my non-working kidneys. Without society and technology (POWER, WATER, SUPPLIES) I will live for as long as two weeks, but could be killed earlier by an electrolyte imbalance or congestive heart failure. I hear the drawn-out version, where the accumulated cellular wastes eventually poison the body is not the best way to go. There’s no worry about a zombie apocalypse from me!

  17. I have enough food and ammo to go a couple of months, but I wouldn’t make it that long. As soon as I run out of morphine I will be useless inside of 2 days. If no end is sight I’m probably going to find a way out. I’ve forgotten a dose and was in a bad way in a few hours. I’m allergic to pain and I”m afraid to have the surgeries for fear of the bill I can’t pay.

  18. I have been walking twice daily for the last 3-4 yrs. I usually walk at least 3 to 3.5 miles in all kinds of weather. I think that recent events made this afternoon’s walk .
    As I mentioned late on the prior thread, my sister-in-law received a Liver transplant overnight. I knew that she was going in for surgery, before I went to bed, but it had not happened. Due to the severe virus that has attacked my colon, my diet has been very limited and I have had to get up in middle of the night. Last night I got up at 12:45 and saw a message from my niece that my SIL had gone into surgery.
    So I slept like a baby the rest of the night, waking up every hour on the hour. At 5:30 came the report that the Liver was replaced and functioning and that a kidney will be transplanted on Thursday. I was feeling OK much of the day, but that last walk really started to drag. I see my Dr. on Thursday but I am guessing that he will tell me that the virus must run its course and be careful what I eat. However my health issues pale in comparison to that of my brother and his wife.
    God Bless all Organ Donors and their families.

  19. Thank you Lily and Ghost. Kind of hoping that the kidney transplant will happen at a scheduled time on Thursday. I guess there is up to a 72 hr between harvest and transplantation possible.

    Why do transplants, emergency surgeries and babies all happen during the midnight hours?

  20. GR6, I think the White House incident shows the shortcomings of any security plan. I spent time in the government’s service feeling out secure sites. The usual finding was security goes soft over time.

  21. For a change in subject and relevant to todays retro strip, I REALLY need to get myself down to Lowe’s garden shop and see if that manager still wants to semi-give me all his dogwood trees and rose bushes. There might be other stuff he’d like someone to haul away also.

    One very good reason I never complain about dead trees, I often get them well on their way to that state!

    However—— my $1 hostas are in excellent condition, so if we get them put in some dirt may do well. The 50 cents rudbeckia
    “White Swan” and “Pow Wow” and other perennials which normally sell for $6-8 each are looking good too.

    When seeds for a particular plant are $6-8 for 5-10 seeds, you know you have a hot new varietal usually.

    I wish Janis could talk. She and I would probably get along really well. She’d love finding bargains, she thinks big too.

    Love, Jackie

  22. Sounds like you are having fun, Jackie. Me, I spend my time in the vegetable and herb garden when I have outside time, weeding is pretty intensive this time of year. We do have some plantings around the hose, but the rose garden on the western side has all the pretty-pretties. The Man In My Life does all the pruning and spraying, though he does dragoon The Boy In My Life into doing weeding. The rest are all elephant ears and the smaller ones, whatever they are called. Caladiums, that’s it. As far as I’m concerned, if you can’t eat it, why bother? Not that i don’t pitch in on the weeding and spraying if offered suitable inducement. 😀

  23. Not surprised at all by that finding, sand. Also, in the same way that armies are seen to always be preparing for the last war, I suspect security types are always planning to counter the last threat. And by their very nature, bureaucracies are often slow to adjust and adapt.

  24. The vegetable garden in back yard is actually beautiful because the pole green beans did exactly what I knew they would do and are forming a solid vining mass across tops of trellis.

    It is simple, I put a green plastic heavy construction mesh from soil to top of trellis and then from trellis to trellis there is a mesh that forms top. It is very versatile because if you didn’t have a vine covering you can use shade cloth to protect lower ground level plants from burning up or even from a sudden freeze with fabric drapes.

    It is attractive enough that people slow down when they reach visual line with yard, then speed up when they get to end of yard.
    Or else they are casing the boat barn for future break-in?

    I say “I” but helper did labor, I can’t climb ladders or even a small step anymore. But she says I get credit for designing it.

    I love herbs and plant a lot but use large pots to contain herbs and keep down weeds. I can’t kneel either!

    Love, Jackie

  25. Heh, I got a pair of kneeler pads for last Christmas. I suspect they were meant for gag gifts but I have used the heck out of them. I don’t like to put herbs in pots cause in August you have to water them so much except for the huge pot with three varieties of Basil (sweet, lemon, and regular) on the back porch under the overhang. There is a nice window with a counter inside facing east and I have tried to raise chives on it, but they always die. Chives hate me. Our herb garden is shaped like a wagon wheel made of landscape timbers radiating out from a center circular area that has a bay tree in in it. The main thing I have to do is keep the darned mint from covering everything. I have no idea why we grow this as the only thing The Man In My Life uses mint for is a sprig to decorate lamb – he hates mint jelly and so do I. Now when it is cooling off and there is a bit of a breeze, I like to go down there right after the sun gets behind the trees on the west fence line and sip an iced tea on the old concrete bench. The thyme, rosemary, and sage make a heavenly scent.

  26. That was the most frustrating blow I’ve seen. Small jets on and off for at least 10 min., onlookers standing around in the wet, looked as though repeating small jets would release all the pressure, several folks left, finally erupted to about average height for several min.

    OF next predicted to erupt at 6:45pm ± 10 minutes CDT.

  27. CDC reports someone who arrived in US from Liberia on September 19, was hospitalized in Dallas on September 28, now has confirmed case of Ebola. Scary Halloween, early. Is this what Frankly Anon was referring too?

  28. That is not good news sandcastler, but I am not surprised. I am on my way from visiting my grandbabies and am now catching up on the posts here. My daughters and I did not talk about the Ebola crisis, but we are concerned about the enterovirus 68 now making the rounds, including here in NC. One of my grandchildren and a great nephew are prone to asthma complications when they get respiratory infections, but it is a scary infection for all children. Adding to that are the nine children in Colorado who developed polio like symptoms after having the enterovirus 68 recently. I pray that this does not continue to spread. On a happier note, I sure enjoyed my time with my sweeties, and Pa-Pa and I got to stop at a favorite meat ‘n’ three on the way home!

  29. I didn’t mention it, but I knew about the Ebola case. Having just gone through serious isolation with both Mike and his mom in hospital, I don’t think our strict isolation could handle an outbreak of much severity of any disease. There were few rooms that could be quarantined although St. Johns is a good hospital.

    On note of Old Faithful eruption, my stone mason’s helper brought up the Yellowstone caldera and the potential for eradication of American civilization by it imploding. Now I have visited Yellowstone a number of times and know this is true, I know it is all a massive volcanic caldera and it is active.

    What say our geyser experts? I have seen Haleakala and Kilauea
    at very close range and was present the day Kilauea began to spew lava again back in the 60’s. I feel so sorry for those killed this week in Japan and their families.

    Anyway, my part time helper lived around Yellowstone for quite a while and he thinks we are in more danger from it than Ebola or terrorists. I watch prof’s web cam off and on and enjoy it but I may view it differently?

    Love, Jackie

  30. Granny Carol, keep us posted on the fall foliage in NC this year.
    We are going to try to make it there again this October but Mike may not hold up for all the traveling or my mom. She began to have chest pain for the first time today walking. At 93 she has never had any heart symptoms! Wish I could say the same.

    Where is the great meat and three? Name?

    Love, Jackie

  31. Jackie, it is the Dixie III Restaurant in Asheboro, NC. We first discovered it 12-14 years ago as we traveled through while taking our daughter to college.

  32. Yay! My son is home for a while from world travels and we are going to surprise my mother tomorrow. I’ve been thinking about things that I wanted to keep, like my army uniforms and I’m beginning to turn loose some of those things because it’s stuff that I will hang on to until I die and then it will get thrown away because it won’t mean anything to anyone else. I regret throwing away my father’s WWII navy uniforms, but that’s what a lot of us do and it’s what my children and stepchildren would do. I was making some preparations for The Big One and then I realized that, like a lot of us, I wouldn’t live long or want to without medication so that’s that.

  33. Re the caldera. There’s a now extinct one somewhere in the NM/CA,NV area that blew in the Miocene; its ash buried a herd of horses hundreds of miles northeast back in the Miocene or Pliocene, 10 to 4 MYA. I’d have dig for the data.

    I think I’ve mentioned here before that the USGS is on the YSNP area caldera, keeps close seismograph tabs on what’s going on in YSNP’s basement, and the feds will get the area evacuated as best they can well in advance of danger. We may know months or even years in advance. Whether the nation will voluntarily or by legal action mobilize in time to minimize loss of life and property, and also minimize economic and social repercussions is another question. We did pretty well after Pearl Harbor, but this has become a very different nation#, and may well continue to become even more different. As I’ve noted before, I do not envy my three grandkids.

    #I remember some photos in TIME, perhaps, of unpleasant bumper stickers [they were not from around here], when there was an OPEC embargo on oil shipments in ’73, and we were concerned / sufficient heating oil in the winter: “Let the b*st**ds freeze in the dark.”

  34. Jerry: When I realized I would probably never use my USAF uniforms again and that they seemed to be shrinking as years passed, I gave them + insignia to the drama dept. at the college. I neglected to take a tax deduction, but I don’t obsess about that.

  35. Heck, my Mom still has my Cub Scout and Boy Scout uniforms.

    More than I can say for my USAF uniforms, except for one fatigue shirt, my field jacket, and a pair of combat boots.

  36. If you have memorabilia of significant historic interest it might be of interest to a military museum or a museum with military exhibits. There are both of course.

    Love, Jackie

  37. I know without even trying that the Nam shirt is too small; gained eighteen pounds in the first three months back. Two years in the field makes one lean and hungry. 😉

  38. Sometimes fiction hits too close to home. Just watched NCIS New Orleans with Mike, who is bigger fan even than I.

    Plot involved bubonic plague infection carried out by an American civilian doctor for financial gain.

    All of concern for Ebola infection kept making me think about 50 years ago when I worked in that REALLY bad and primitive Louisiana charity hospital as a lab tech. Our contamination containment was nonexistent to say the least.

    Think we had one room where we could quarantine people, more or less. I came to work to find out we had a merchant seaman with a strange disease in there. It turned out to be bubonic plague of some form, picked up in Africa if I remember correctly.

    We were all going “Plague? do they still have that? Hasn’t it been eradicated?” He died of course but I don’t remember anyone running around in Hazmat suits which we didn’t have of course, nor any of us being tested or vaccinated or the hospital being decontaminated.

    When we did get exposed to bad diseases, which we did of course through blood and body fluids, no one especially tested us, just said tell if we started showing symptoms!

    It may be 50 years later but I doubt disease control is much better in most small towns or rural facilities. I think disease or plagues could be spread easily and rapidly.

    Incidentally, residents LOVED training at that hospital for all the bad stuff they saw. It was challenging to them I think.

    Love, Jackie

  39. This here in this part of Utah, the fruit that came in great abundance were the apricots. Those with trees pursued those of us without trees with great fervor, seeking to unload their bounty. Receiving the first few sacks of fruit was okay, but if you didn’t have the means to put it up properly you ended up wasting an uncomfortable amount of apricots.

    Some of my more paranoid neighbors are wondering if you could possibly track the children coming illegally from third world countries as well as the enterovirus 68, would there be an obvious, positive correlation? I leave that question up to more knowledgeable folks.

  40. Yeah, Jackie, and now military surgeons go to trauma hospitals in Chicago and Detroit to learn combat surgery. What’s wrong with that picture?

    I have to confess I’ve never watched a single episode of NCIS, in any of its iterations, until tonight. I was flipping to the local weather data channel and ran across NCIS-New Orleans. I remembered you had mentioned it, so I watched the last bit of it, to see if I recognized any of the location shots. The first thing I saw was them catching a rat. Then, somehow, in about four minutes, a couple of techs analyzed something and came up with results it would have probably taken CDC in Atlanta two weeks or more to get. In about two more minutes they had figured out who-done-it. The suspect then turned on his cell phone “for a moment”, allowing the NCIS team to not only track him down on some bayou in the middle of nowhere but get ahead of him and set up an ambush for him. The team leader threatened to throw him in the bayou and almost did, which fact almost any competent attorney could probably use to get all the evidence in his car thrown out. The trigger discipline of the other two team members sucked, as they were standing side by side, fingers on triggers, pointing their weapons at the suspect…with the team leader about six inches away from him. Oh yeah, and the “Southern accent” of one of the male team members sucked even worse.

    In other words, I guess it was just your typical TV police procedural show full of good looking people. 🙂

  41. Good morning Villagers….

    It’s here, and it’s in Dallas; bumbling idiots as Secret Service….I watched the news with husband yesterday evening….still awake at 2 am….finally fell asleep and dreamed a western saga of all things. Complete with cowboys and Indians…gotta lay off the Cheerios 🙂

    Jerry, am excited to hear your son is visiting…you have mentioned him here a couple of times, have fun.

    Steve, I was also excited to hear about your SIL and her transplant. I was a donor as was my son until we were both stricken with the Hep C virus. We both have ‘cleared’ the virus, but carry the antigen….so…no one wants us as donors.

    Mark…glad to hear you’re healing. I remember hearing that a couple of years ago when I broke my wrist, it’ll take a little more time to heal as I was older and had less calcium in my body. Now I take vitamins for the 50 plus age range.

    GR 😉 I’ve saved just a few of my son’s clothes from when he was just under 1ish, including his cute little trench coat.

    Jackie, love reading your posts… GR has mentioned, you must do an autobiography 🙂

    gotta go, ya’ll be safe and have a blessed day.

    ….oh, and Lily 🙂 , there’s a song somewhere there….parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme…

  42. GR…..speaking of good looking people on television, have you noticed the ladies lately as new analysts on Faux? And I’m not talking about the one Gretchen on at 7. There’s cleavage in them there ratings 🙂

  43. Debbe 😉 Expression I heard recently that might apply…”rockin’ some major cleave”.

    I guess that network figures they’ve already won the Leg Wars, so time to move onward and upward. 😉

  44. Husband says they don’t call them fox for no reason. I tell him they use same criteria as the boobs bars. But he says they are also smart. Since that was criteria he used when he married me, I have to say he probably hasn’t changed?

    But then I have, so I always feel I am on shaky ground.

    Ghost, I think NCIS New Orleans and LA both are about as fantastic as Lily’s dreams of playing guitar in the French Quarter!

    Since nothing I say is classified, I can say I handled anthrax cases with disease warfare gone wrong and mustard gas and other gas cases from chemical warfare gone wrong. Not to mention Agent Orange in Nam and other bad stuff. Do not talk to me about chemical and pestilent warfare, it is there and tons we don’t hear about. Oh, and those cases went back to WWI if the ill or their beneficiaries were still alive.

    Debbe, no one wants my organs probably for same reason as you, had hepatitis too many times. They have never been sure which letter of the alphabet to assign all mine. Fantastically, they go beyond C now. Won’t take my blood either, Ghost, although I used to give it. They probably threw it away if they had good testing protocol.

    Life, if you lived, in that hospital was VERY interesting. We used to drink our sodas from lab containers (well we washed them!) and I was drinking a 7-Up or something clear, accidently swallowed a big gulp of iced down spinal fluid I was working on in a similar jar. It was going off to CDC eventually but they didn’t worry much about me. They did say we couldn’t drink out of lab containers any more!

    Got mama’s coffee made, need to feed her breakfast.

    Love, Jackie

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