The Marriage Counseling Department

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We continue with our tribute to the late Tom Magliozzi of the long-running radio show “Car Talk.” Do we even know which one was “Click” and which one was “Clack?” When the second cartoon above first ran in 1996, I got an email from an offended fellow of Italian origin who took exception to being stereotyped. If you can’t make fun of Latin lotharios you truly cannot make fun of anybody. Ray Magliozzi did back me up in an email, however. Yes, I exchanged a few emails with the crew at “Car Talk” when this ran, and they sent me a really nifty coffee mug. It later broke in the dishwasher. That’s what I get for not washing my fine china by hand. They did not, however, mention me on their show, for which I was really angling.

37 responses to “The Marriage Counseling Department”

  1. I am really enjoying these archived strips – many of which I have never seen, because I was not aware of the strip until my local paper started carrying it, a number of years after it first began. I had never seen these about Car Talk – such a great tribute at this time. Thank you!
    On another note, as soon as our local paper dropped the “funnies,” I dropped it! That is how I found this site, so it was a blessing in disguise! 😉

  2. Go ahead. Make my day. Stereotype me as handsome, charming and successful with the ladies. Go on. I double-dog dare you. I warn you, I have the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice on speed dial.

    What the heck was that Italian guy’s problem, anyway? 🙂

    When I tried to post this earlier today, my first thought was, “Well, that’s one way to deal with a troll problem.”

  3. This is post 57 from early this morning, before Jimmy posted anew. The 3 posts following it are also worth reading. Peace, emb
    emeritus minnesota biologist on 06 Nov 2014 at 8:11 am # 57.

    Jackie: ‘I had never realized she created concepts of “wardrobe malfunctions” that resulted in exposure for exposure.’
    They appeared in Playboy back when Jayne Mansfield was big [in a different sense].

    Outlander and wife: Yes, opportunities for funerals will come more often. Further, one of you will probably die before the other, and the next several the other attends will seem to be replays. Wife died late Dec. ’10, and I attended 13 funerals in ’11. Positive notes: they later become chances to renew acquaintances, and also [more crassly] to enjoy other people’s kitchen skills at the lunch afterwards. Locally, those are best at a relatively small Episcopal church. The large R.C. church does well, as do some of the Lutheran churches [of many stripes, and the UMC]. I’m guessing R.C. + various Lutheran = 90% of the local population.

  4. I read recently that when asked which was Click or Clack, neither knew. They joked about each having half a brain so between them they were working with one. What great guys. Full of themselves, yes, but in such a self-effacing way and with such generosity of spirt toward others.

  5. A self defense firearms recommendation? Thanks for bringing up such a simple, straightforward topic, Jackie. 🙂

    I’ll jot down a few thoughts for later, tailored to what I would think your needs would be, probably for this weekend.

  6. Since I couldn’t get on the site this AM, I posted this on “That’s Janis”:
    domaucan1 on 06 Nov 2014 at 9:59 am #

    Couldn’t get on the current comments. As a first generation American-Italian, I take No offense at your retro comic, JJ. My last name is Cangelosi! Couldn’t get more Italian extraction than that. Keep up the good work. I enjoy all your stuff, old and new. War Eagle!

    P.S. My Daddy was an American citizen born in Sicily, circa 1907!

  7. I’m home from a week of cruising around beautiful Alabama. I’m exhausted and I am going to my cousin’s funeral tomorrow, but I will try to catch up when I can.

  8. Sounds as though the Fort Lauderdale city government, along with that of some other Florida municipalities, is getting serious about trying to keep the homeless out of sight…and out of mind.

  9. Good morning Villagers….

    Outlander and Jackie, I asked Ian what ‘rifles’ we have, I said I knew we had a .22, and he said a couple of shotguns too. Never fired any of them, maybe I should practice. We have no dogs, never replaced Bobo, who was ‘killed’ two years ago by the neanderthals visiting their parents….they live across the way. I am not looking forward to Thanksgiving as they set out live snares and go on shooting sprees.

    My brother-in- law stays with us frequently, and we believe it was his 30 year old thieving, drug addicted, drama queen daughter….she’s been here before in that truck. Probably looking for her dad who wasn’t here.

    I saw the interview of the 90 year old man and pastor on the news last night…how sad. It was mentioned the city was afraid they were ruining the tourist business. They are going to continue feeding the homeless though….good for them.

    Found out the hard way yesterday morning how fast a popped out auger (at least 20 feet of it) can recoil. I was PO’d, it was in my way and I kicked at it….damn, it hit my leg and recoiled so fast that I knew if I didn’t run, it would have done more damage. The Boss sent in troops to find out why three different augers keep popping out. Hopefully, when we go in this morn, there will be none out. Here’s the kicker…we have 1200 fee of new auger laying there, to be put in, but……which feeding trough do you put it in?

    Jerry, was wondering where you were…glad you’re back, and my sympathies on the loss of your cousin. You had mentioned him a few threads back.

    Well, if it’s Friday….it’s PAYDAY…and I’m broke before I even cash my check….sigh.

    Mark….I was talking to a young and very polite young man yesterday at work, and I mentioned that tomorrow was the 7th and Pink Floyd’s new album was being released. He knew it, and said he was going to buy it, but he wasn’t sure if he was going to like it as it was going to be instrumental, no singing. I asked him if he remember “Echos”? Then I teased him that it was way before he was born….he laughed, and said he had the album.

    Ya’l have a blessed day

    GR 😉

  10. Yesterday was too long and too much work. Had to go help bail out another store near Indy. Not the manager’s fault – brand new. The good thing was a bunch if us got to see our old boss – great guy, works hard, and always willing to lend a hand. Another long day ahead.

  11. What causes homelessness? Why is there so much of it today? Quoting Wikipedia:

    Mental disorder, where mental health services are unavailable or difficult to access. A United States Federal survey done in 2005 indicated that at least one-third of homeless men and women have serious psychiatric disorders or problems.

    Disability, especially where disability services are non-existent or poor performing.

    Traumatic brain injury, a disease which according to a Canadian survey is widespread among homeless people and can be chalked up for around or 70% of respondents to a time “before the onset of homelessness”.

    I’m old enough to remember the debate over the apparent lack of legal justification for “warehousing” the mentally ill, those who were incapacitated by their illness to the point that they could not hold jobs and provide housing for themselves. It became their “right” to be homeless! One idiot judge claimed that one poor woman who sculpted with her own excrement was an artist who ought to be admired for her creativity…

    I’m a volunteer chaplain at a state mental hospital. I’ve seen how the revolving door works because we’ve failed to provide adequate support to those who are brought in, are treated to the point that they are able to function more normally, and released with a 30-day supply of their medications. Yes, the hospital does set them up with a place to go to… but at the end of that 30-days they’re own their own to find a way to acquire refills. And in today’s economy, finding jobs for those with a history of mental illness is harder than ever.

    We need to expand the support system to help those who are willing to continue their medications to get them. And we need to better educate the public concerning mental illness. I’ve been confronted by several fools who demand to know why we’re mollycoddling people who have sinned and brought the condemnation of God upon themselves! My theology doesn’t include mental illness as a result of sin.

    Do any of you live in states where those discharged are afforded access to the medicines they need? Are there any such states?

  12. Since this seemed to be the issue with my gardening lady (who was not homeless) who was hard worker and nice when stable, I would say Oklahoma does not. She works when able to but according to friends will not stay on meds or see doctors, she according to friends also is alcoholic which compounds things.

    I was about to tackle the Oklahoma mental health system for her (with her) when we got news on Mike’s recurrent cancers. My own mental state is shaky enough right now and I am going to be going through a lot. Couldn’t take on paranoia and state system right now. I am afraid that makes me a bad person, for I do think we are our brothers’ keepers.

    Do know that my British friends think Americans have failed our homeless and mentally ill, especially our Veterans, so they must do better in their countries?

    Love, Jackie

  13. Agreed, Ghost. One of prettiest historic sites in my daughter’s town of Quincy, IL is the Veterans Home. Beautiful old buildings, landscaping and even a small wildlife zoo with deer. I am sure there is a long line to get in. Why don’t we have these operating all over America? It is run by state of Illinois apparently and not VA.

  14. Jackie, Keep the name of OK state Senator Frank Simpson in your memory. I don’t know if he is in your district but I do know he will do anything he can when you are at the point to take on the Oklahoma mental health system.


  15. Trucker Ron, we have a 35+ year old son who suffers from anxiety and bipolar disorders and we have managed to keep him off the streets, but it’s practically a full time job for my wife, who also volunteers with NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness). The situation has several aspects.

    We managed to get him on SSI which pays enough to keep him in a small apartment, but more importantly qualifies him for Medicaid and get him his meds. The meds are horrendously expensive otherwise. But to get into the system requires endless paperwork and opinions by psychologists and it may take 6 months to get into see one. The client needs an advocate to keep the paperwork rolling and get the client into meetings. The client is usually less than cooperative at this point too.

    Secondly most people suffering from a mental disorder self medicate with alcohol, both before they start their medications (bad) and many during the treatment (very bad). Our son is one and we’re trying to get him into the third apartment in three years because they decline to renew the lease because of his unpleasant demeanor when he drinks.

    Psychotropic meds can have unpleasant side affects and it’s usually a juggling act to find out what will work and what the client can live with. 30 days doesn’t begin to do the job. This is an unpleasant time for everyone concerned. And then there is a tendency for the person afflicted to believe they’ve been cured after they start to feel better with the meds and they quit.

    There is nothing one can do to force people into treatment, unless they are a danger to themselves or others and then, as you point out, the treatment places will take them in for 3 days or a week and set them back out on the street without even a ride home. Fort Bend County, where I used to live and which was one of the faster growing counties in the US had zero psychiatric beds in 4 hospitals so patients were shipped 3 hours away to Austin.

    So this whole business is a stool with three legs: Money, personal advocacy and client cooperation. If any one of those is missing, the client is out on the street.

    On a side note, many of you will be dealing with a person with mental illness. NAMI is a good
    support system for those who are trying to provide support and trying to learn to live with loved ones.

  16. Knew Oklahoma had Veterans Homes also, as I had close friend with dad in one.

    We have seven apparently but seems they can only handle 1600 patients/residents and they must have served in wartime. Site says we rank second in nation for homes, which is sad. This can only be a fraction of those needing care.

    They do have mental health/dementia departments as did the Illinois ones.

    Love, Jackie

  17. Phil, I think you have written a heartfelt and accurate description of the situation for many.

    I know that an advocate is necessary and I know the lack of cooperation by patient is biggest hurdle. When I was awarding and administering Federal benefits, I often found that disabled mental patients who received large sums of money monthly and could have had all related medical costs paid for went untreated and were on streets for lack of the above.

    The inability to force anyone to accept treatment for mental illness or drug abuse means that the choice is being made by those who are ill equipped to make any decision.

    This is hardly a “happy” subject but we seem to have a group here that both cares and is willing to express themselves openly.

    Thank you for that. I have to take off with Mama to get her to a cardiologists office 120 miles away and an earlier appointment, so keep the faith and hope alive.

    Love, Jackie

  18. I have personal involvement with a messed up family member, former vet. It’s very difficult when they’re kind of weird, bordering on dirty and nasty, but they don’t want anyone to do anything for or to them, then they slowly get actually socially dysfunctional, but still not at the level of any sort of action being taken

  19. Trucker: “I’ve been confronted by several fools who demand to know why we’re mollycoddling people who have sinned and brought the condemnation of God upon themselves! My theology doesn’t include mental illness as a result of sin.”

    As a biol. prof, I ran into this sort of “reasoning” often, against scientific findings of course, but also to avoid responsibility for the common good. Often, as your quote suggests, these folks are ardent “Christians.” Pardon my cynicism, but I expect this sort of thing will increase in the coming decades, perhaps eventually being government sponsored.

    For unknown reasons, I am on the mailing list of a small church college whose newsletters contain columns by Ph.D.’s and such denouncing any sort of public safety net for the “undeserving poor.”* Whether or not faculty can achieve tenure there, I don’t know. I understand that at J. Falwell’s college they cannot; if you stray from the “received” viewpoint, goodby.

    *[There must be such a category, because the late 20th century’s most popular president expressed concern for the “deserving poor.” I expect the only members some would admit into that pigeonhole are veterans, and they might have to pass an ideological test. I’d fail.] Peace, emb

  20. I will soon retire (for the second time), but am currently working at a regional mental health facility. Have worked for them about 15 years, in the Finance Dept. I do not have medical or mental health training, but I have learned a little by just being in the mental health environment. It IS a real problem. Our counselors, case managers, therapists, doctors – all do the best they can but it is an uphill battle all the way. From community stigma to funding problems – so many suffer. And don’t even get me started with the problems that our veterans have to endure!

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